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Acquiring Reignite CD-ROM for 16702B

Question asked by anthony_mcdowell on Sep 22, 2015
Latest reply on Jan 7, 2016 by SporkSchivago

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I just acquired a 16702B and I need to reignite as it is not booting properly. I found this knowledge base article:

http://www.keysight.com/main/editorial.jspx?cc=US&lc=eng&ckey=375133&nid=-536902551.536880914&id=375133

It indicates that I can get a CD-ROM for free but it references the old Agilent URL rather than the Keysight URL. As such, it 404's when I click the link.

Is there a way for me to get a reignite CD-ROM disc?

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algoss Sep 22, 2015 1:48 PM
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The 16702B went "out of support", which essentially means obsolete, and not supported in any way by Keysight (or Agilent), in February, 2010. Our ability to create HP-UX CD's went away within a month after that.

That said, you might try this: ftp://ftp.keysight.com/cos/outbound/16700/16700_A0290.iso.

Burn that onto a CD-Rom, not a DVD, and give it a try. If that doesn't work, maybe someone else who watches the forums might have an answer.

I'll see about getting that web page fixed. Let us know if this link works for you. I no longer have a 16702 to try it with.

Al
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- anthony_mcdowell @ algoss on Sep 22, 2015 1:50 PM
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  thanks for the link!! I'll give it a try.
  
  Is it possible to get the article scrubbed, then, so that no one else gets the false impression that I did that it's still possible to get that disc?
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  - anthony_mcdowell @ anthony_mcdowell on Sep 22, 2015 8:26 PM
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    Well, no joy on it being bootable. But, thanks for your help anyway. I'll see if I can find one on eBay or something.
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    - algoss @ anthony_mcdowell on Sep 30, 2015 11:27 AM
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      Here is more information that might help (from the next level of support at Keysight):
      
      Al is very correct that
      ftp://ftp.keysight.com/cos/outbound/16700/16700_A0290.iso
      should be a good .iso image..
      However, perhaps the CD burner software used did not create a good CD.
      
      Possibly the HDD in the 16702B might actually be bad.
      
      While I do not think that there are any remaining SCSI HDDs in stock, we could get you the manufacturers and MPN of alternative HDDs. There were alternative SCSI HDD in 4 GB and 9 GB and 18 GB and 36 GB and even 72 GB sizes..
      
      If the HDD currently in the 16702B is a new ‘raw’ HDD, then the HDD would need to be partitioned. Normally this is done automatically by the reignite procedure. However, if the HDD is an early 2 GB one then this will not work and the latest OS for the 16702B won’t run on it.. Any OS version of 2.0 or later required at least a 4 GB HDD, I think.
      
      Also, and *this is the most probable problem*, the 16702B may have been in storage for a long time and the Battery on the CPU board has died.
      
      If the unit has been sitting in an unplugged state for quite a while, then the battery on the CPU board has very probably died.
      
      This means that the clock keeping time on the CPU board has stopped. Upon plugging it back in, the HP-UX Operating System will presume that the time is the beginning of Unix time which was about 1970 or so. The first thing that happens with a reignite procedure is that many, many files are copied from the
      CD to a temporary location on the HDD. And, in that temporary location, they will acquire the date stamp of the current system clock which would be around 1970 or so. So then, when it comes time for them to be copied from the temporary location to their real location, the installation will gripe that they are ‘older’ than the date stamp of the files in the real location. Thus, they will not get copied and the reignite will fail.
      
      The immediate solution to this is as follows:
      - Interrupt the boot by repeatedly whacking the ESC key
      - When you get a prompt, enter a CO command to see all of the commands available to you
      - The command about which you care is the TI (time set) command. Enter a command of TI to see what it thinks the present date is. Enter the correct current date and time with a TI command to correct the date The format is cn:yy:mm:dd:hh:mm:ss for century:year:month:day:hr:min:sec For example, as I type this it would be: 20:09:08:11:14:35:00
      
      The battery is a BR2325 on the CPU board. It is very easily replaced. The originals were probably by Panasonic , but anyone’s will work. It is just a flat button battery, if I recall correctly.
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      - anthony_mcdowell @ algoss on Oct 3, 2015 10:51 AM
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        thanks for the tip on the battery. It took several days to get my hands on one of the 2325 batteries but now that I have, I've managed to get the time situation sorted out.
        
        I'm now stuck trying to boot the re-ignite CD. I have burned the image and the scope sees the disc in the drive but when I do:
        
        BO P1, it accesses the drive and then the boot process hangs at the "HARD Booted." message. I can leave it sitting there for hours (and have) and nothing happens. I'm following the "Reignite: Re-installing the operating system" instructions from the service guide (16700-97015.pdf) document, page 44.
        
        Have I missed something obvious??
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        SporkSchivago @ anthony_mcdowell on Jan 6, 2016 9:49 AM
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        I know you asked a while ago for this but I just read your message.   I've ordered an HP 16702B Logic Analyzer and was looking for the OS disc as well.   From what I've read, the disc on Keysight's FTP site is missing a few very important bytes (around 225 bytes or something like that).   Anyway, a user over at EEVBlog was able to upload some images of the official discs he got from HP over the years.    If you still need a copy and it doesn't violate the forum rules, I could give you a link to the latest version (I believe it's the latest at least) 2.90.00.
        
        If Keysight wanted, I could provide them with a link and they could replace the non-bootable ISO with the working bootable one that I have.   Or they could at least compare the two ISOs, the one I have with the one on their FTP server.   I can provide technical information as to what's actually wrong with the ISO on Keysight's FTP site if anyone is interested.   The person that discovered the problem was very thorough in his research and explained exactly what is wrong with it.
        
        On a side note, would it be possible for Keysight to release some source code for the 16702B?   If the system is obsolete, would it hurt anything or can't you guys do that?   I'd love to be able to try to update the code a bit.   Thanks!
        
        Edited by: Spork Schivago on Jan 6, 2016 10:48 AM
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        algoss @ SporkSchivago on Jan 7, 2016 5:39 AM
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        Spork,
        
        I'm sending a PM.
        
        Al
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        SporkSchivago @ algoss on Jan 7, 2016 6:59 AM
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        Al,
        
        I responded to the PM.   Please let me know if you have any problems with anything.   Might be worth putting all the versions up on the FTP site, just for historical reasons.
        
        Spork
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