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vrf VEE with Nat'l VISA

Question asked by VRFuser on Feb 9, 2006
Hello from Gregg C Levine
Jay, in the message there, you mentioned, "If you wanted to use VISA on a pure NI system, we did write a generalized I/O plug&play driver that I think is still available."

Can you point me in that direction? While I very rarely have a use for the NI methods of I/O for testing my many projects, I prefer VEE's methods, within the next few weeks I shall be heading down that path.
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On 2/9/06, Jay Nemeth-Johannes <jay.johannes@smartsensorsystems.com> wrote:
> Pretty much what others have said.  Direct I/O uses SICL, not VISA. 
> If you wanted to use VISA on a pure NI system, we did write a
> generalized I/O plug&play driver that I think is still available.  If
> you load that driver and choose ASRL for the interface, it will speak VISA to the serial port.
>
> I think side by side I/O is the better solution, but this can be an
> alternative.
>
>
> Jay Nemeth-Johannes
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>
> ________________________________
> From: Drago, William @NARDAEAST [mailto:William.Drago@L-3com.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 12:05 PM
>
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] VEE with Nat'l VISA
>
>
> Okay, thanks...
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Street, Andy M [mailto:andy.street@tycoelectronics.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:47 AM
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] VEE with Nat'l VISA
>
> Hi Bill,
>
> I think you can (but I have never tried it for real!).  Unless things
> have changed dramatically VEE's Direct I/O object puts a call into the
> SICL layer of the Agilent IO Libraries for GPIB.  If the Agilent IO
> Libs are not installed/you are using the NI API, then VEE throws the
> call out to the NI488.DLL and hopes that it is there!  For the serial
> port, VEE directs the call to the SICL layer.  No SICL installed, no
> talking to the serial port, just the error message sicl32.dll not found...
>
> I think that you should be able to install the Agilent IO Libs side by
> side with your NI installation.  Install Agilent VISA as secondary if
> you choose to install the VISA API.  This 'should not' mess anything
> up.  You might even want to try a custom install of the IO Libs and
> choose only to install the SICL API.
>
> That's the theory anyway...
>
> Good luck,
>
> Andy
>
> ________________________________
>
> From: Drago, William @NARDAEAST [mailto:William.Drago@L-3com.com]
> Sent: Thursday, February 09, 2006 9:09 AM
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] VEE with Nat'l VISA
>
>
> Well, it was working until I tried use the serial port. If I'm just
> using GPIB everything is fine. When I tried a program that needs the
> serial port I get a SICL error message--"sicl32.dll not found."
>
> Is there a way to fix this? Can I install SICL without messing up all
> the National stuff?
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Drago, William @NARDAEAST [mailto:William.Drago@L-3com.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 7:04 AM
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] VEE with Nat'l VISA
>
>
>
> All,
>
> I installed VEE 7.0 runtime on my NI system yesterday and it worked.
> No problems at all.
>
> Thanks,
> Bill
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Baranski, Detlef
> [mailto:Detlef.Baranski@pilkington.de]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 10, 2006 6:54 AM
> > To: 'Drago, William @NARDAEAST'; VRF
> > Subject: AW: [vrf] VEE with Nat'l VISA
> >
> >
> > It not that easy , sorry.
> > Read the Manual. There are different things to take care dependent
> > on the VEE Version you have.
> > Since Vee 7 you need NI Visa lib 3 or higher , otherwise it is not
> > working.
> > With Iolib 14.1 and VEE 7.5 it should work without any big problems
> > if Nilib is installed first. But there were some troubles also....
> > So let us know if your attempt work.
> >
> > Best regards,
> > detlef
> >
> > -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----
> > Von: Drago, William @NARDAEAST [mailto:William.Drago@L-3com.com]
> > Gesendet: Freitag, 6. Januar 2006 16:38
> > An: VRF
> > Betreff: RE: [vrf] VEE with Nat'l VISA
> >
> > Thanks, I'll give it a try.
> >
> > Bill
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: BOCKSTAL,DANIEL (A-Belgium,ex1)
> > [mailto:daniel_bockstal@agilent.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 8:45 AM
> > To: VRF
> > Subject: RE: [vrf] VEE with Nat'l VISA Hello Drago, VEE will play
> > nicely with NI's VISA, no problem. You can have a side by side
> > installation (NI VISA + Agilent VISA) on the same computer, but this
> > is only required if you mix Agilent's and NI's hardware (an Agilent
> > GPIB card and an NI GPIB card in the same PC)  Best regards Daniel
> > Bockstal
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > From: Drago, William @NARDAEAST [mailto:William.Drago@L-3com.com]
> > Sent: Friday, January 06, 2006 2:23 PM
> > To: VRF
> > Subject: [vrf] VEE with Nat'l VISA
> >
> > All,
> >
> > I have a test system running LabWindows/CVI and TestStand. I want to
> > install VEE runtime so I can use the equipment in that test system
> > with some of my VEE programs.
> >
> > Will VEE play nice with the Nat'l VISA or does it need it's own?
> > And, if it does need it's own, can the two VISAs co-exist?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Bill
> >
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