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Hi All,

I have a new Pickering Switch Card (50-513-021) that I am trying to get
working with a "non VEE" software control program. It is not going very
well, so far. As a backup route, has anyone used a pickering relay card
with VEE? Any sample Code?

Best Regards,

Tom Daniels
Sr. Test Engineer
The Morey Corporation
100 Morey Drive
Woodridge, IL 60517
T: (630) 754-2256
F: (630) 754-2656
tdaniels@moreycorp.com

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VRFuser Feb 19, 2006 11:07 PM
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> Does anybody know how I might
> convert ".ico" files or perhaps
> generate ".icn" files directly?

I had no idea they were different...

Hmmm... they're text files that define bitmap data. Welp, start with width
and height, then at the fourth line suck in comma separated data, quit when
you find a right bracket '}'. Hack off 0x and convert to bytes as you go.
Jeez!

Yes I can see a way to do it, but then again who knows what format this data
is in. It *says* bits, but there are more than just bits involved. I'd say
ask Agilent.
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VRFuser Feb 19, 2006 11:07 PM
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> Does anybody know how I might
> convert ".ico" files or perhaps
> generate ".icn" files directly?

I had no idea they were different...

Hmmm... they're text files that define bitmap data. Welp, start with width
and height, then at the fourth line suck in comma separated data, quit when
you find a right bracket '}'. Hack off 0x and convert to bytes as you go.
Jeez!

Yes I can see a way to do it, but then again who knows what format this data
is in. It *says* bits, but there are more than just bits involved. I'd say
ask Agilent.
-SHAWN-

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bwalden Feb 19, 2006 11:07 PM
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Strangely enough I have the need to change the icon associated with a
Vee application object and I want to use something very simlilar to what
you get by selecting one of the ".icn" files in the bitmaps directory
(minimal size, transparent background). I assume ".icn" files use some
outdated Icon format. Does anybody know how I might convert ".ico" files
or perhaps generate ".icn" files directly?

Barrie
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bwalden Feb 19, 2006 11:07 PM
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Strangely enough I have the need to change the icon associated with a
Vee application object and I want to use something very simlilar to what
you get by selecting one of the ".icn" files in the bitmaps directory
(minimal size, transparent background). I assume ".icn" files use some
outdated Icon format. Does anybody know how I might convert ".ico" files
or perhaps generate ".icn" files directly?

Barrie
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VRFuser Feb 20, 2006 12:44 AM
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> Very different.

I'd have to say advantage Windows on this one. Just about all the bitmap
formats it deals with are interchangeable more or less. An .ico file is the
same as a .bmp file with a different header.

Given the icn format, this conversion (icn to ico) is a breeze. Read in the
data, construct a bitmap and save as an icon.
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VRFuser Feb 20, 2006 12:44 AM
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> Very different.

I'd have to say advantage Windows on this one. Just about all the bitmap
formats it deals with are interchangeable more or less. An .ico file is the
same as a .bmp file with a different header.

Given the icn format, this conversion (icn to ico) is a breeze. Read in the
data, construct a bitmap and save as an icon.
-SHAWN-

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hansolofalcon Feb 20, 2006 1:27 AM
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Hello from Gregg C Levine
Very different. *.ico files are created using the same tools that
create *.bmp files when using VS (Visual Studio). *.icn come from
development tools that were originally running on HP/UX. After all
that is the operating system that originally hosted VEE. Those files
were icon files for an X Windows or Motif viewed application. It
depends on the chosen desktop manager. I suspect it was Motif because
of how the windows on the original releases of VEE behaved. But since
I'm not all familiar with HP/UX I might be some what off base there.
Although X Windows also used *.xpm files.

By original releases I mean the Version 3 one for Windows 3.11 and the
Version 4 one for Windows 95/NT. And eventually the same went for the
early releases of Version 5. By the time we got to the 6 series and
even the current 7 series, things looked more like native Windows, and
less like anything ported.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:07 PM
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] Icon formats
>
> > Does anybody know how I might
> > convert ".ico" files or perhaps
> > generate ".icn" files directly?
>
> I had no idea they were different...
>
> Hmmm... they're text files that define bitmap data. Welp, start with
width
> and height, then at the fourth line suck in comma separated data,
quit when
> you find a right bracket '}'. Hack off 0x and convert to bytes as
you go.
> Jeez!
>
> Yes I can see a way to do it, but then again who knows what format
this data
> is in. It *says* bits, but there are more than just bits involved.
I'd say
> ask Agilent.
> -SHAWN-
>
>
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hansolofalcon Feb 20, 2006 1:27 AM
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Hello from Gregg C Levine
Very different. *.ico files are created using the same tools that
create *.bmp files when using VS (Visual Studio). *.icn come from
development tools that were originally running on HP/UX. After all
that is the operating system that originally hosted VEE. Those files
were icon files for an X Windows or Motif viewed application. It
depends on the chosen desktop manager. I suspect it was Motif because
of how the windows on the original releases of VEE behaved. But since
I'm not all familiar with HP/UX I might be some what off base there.
Although X Windows also used *.xpm files.

By original releases I mean the Version 3 one for Windows 3.11 and the
Version 4 one for Windows 95/NT. And eventually the same went for the
early releases of Version 5. By the time we got to the 6 series and
even the current 7 series, things looked more like native Windows, and
less like anything ported.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:07 PM
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] Icon formats
>
> > Does anybody know how I might
> > convert ".ico" files or perhaps
> > generate ".icn" files directly?
>
> I had no idea they were different...
>
> Hmmm... they're text files that define bitmap data. Welp, start with
width
> and height, then at the fourth line suck in comma separated data,
quit when
> you find a right bracket '}'. Hack off 0x and convert to bytes as
you go.
> Jeez!
>
> Yes I can see a way to do it, but then again who knows what format
this data
> is in. It *says* bits, but there are more than just bits involved.
I'd say
> ask Agilent.
> -SHAWN-
>
>
>
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bwalden Feb 20, 2006 1:59 AM
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Remember the goal is to go from an .ico file (that I can make easily) to
a .icn file that I can use with a Vee object.

Barrie

Shawn Fessenden wrote:

> Given the icn format, this conversion (icn to ico) is a breeze. Read in the
> data, construct a bitmap and save as an icon.
> -SHAWN-

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Remember the goal is to go from an .ico file (that I can make easily) to
a .icn file that I can use with a Vee object.

Barrie

Shawn Fessenden wrote:

> Given the icn format, this conversion (icn to ico) is a breeze. Read in the
> data, construct a bitmap and save as an icon.
> -SHAWN-

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Strangely enough I have the need to change the icon associated with a Vee application object and I want to use something very simlilar to what you get by selecting one of the ".icn" files in the bitmaps directory (minimal size, transparent background). I assume ".icn" files use some outdated Icon format. Does anybody know how I might convert ".ico" files or perhaps generate ".icn" files directly?

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Strangely enough I have the need to change the icon associated with a Vee application object and I want to use something very simlilar to what you get by selecting one of the ".icn" files in the bitmaps directory (minimal size, transparent background). I assume ".icn" files use some outdated Icon format. Does anybody know how I might convert ".ico" files or perhaps generate ".icn" files directly?

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VRFuser Feb 20, 2006 1:22 PM
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> Does anybody know how I might
> convert ".ico" files or perhaps
> generate ".icn" files directly?

I had no idea they were different...

Hmmm... they're text files that define bitmap data. Welp, start with width and height, then at the fourth line suck in comma separated data, quit when you find a right bracket '}'. Hack off 0x and convert to bytes as you go.
Jeez!

Yes I can see a way to do it, but then again who knows what format this data is in. It *says* bits, but there are more than just bits involved. I'd say ask Agilent.
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> Does anybody know how I might
> convert ".ico" files or perhaps
> generate ".icn" files directly?

I had no idea they were different...

Hmmm... they're text files that define bitmap data. Welp, start with width and height, then at the fourth line suck in comma separated data, quit when you find a right bracket '}'. Hack off 0x and convert to bytes as you go.
Jeez!

Yes I can see a way to do it, but then again who knows what format this data is in. It *says* bits, but there are more than just bits involved. I'd say ask Agilent.
-SHAWN-

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Hello from Gregg C Levine
Very different. *.ico files are created using the same tools that create *.bmp files when using VS (Visual Studio). *.icn come from development tools that were originally running on HP/UX. After all that is the operating system that originally hosted VEE. Those files were icon files for an X Windows or Motif viewed application. It depends on the chosen desktop manager. I suspect it was Motif because of how the windows on the original releases of VEE behaved. But since I'm not all familiar with HP/UX I might be some what off base there.
Although X Windows also used *.xpm files.

By original releases I mean the Version 3 one for Windows 3.11 and the Version 4 one for Windows 95/NT. And eventually the same went for the early releases of Version 5. By the time we got to the 6 series and even the current 7 series, things looked more like native Windows, and less like anything ported.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:07 PM
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] Icon formats
>
> > Does anybody know how I might
> > convert ".ico" files or perhaps
> > generate ".icn" files directly?
>
> I had no idea they were different...
>
> Hmmm... they're text files that define bitmap data. Welp, start with
width
> and height, then at the fourth line suck in comma separated data,
quit when
> you find a right bracket '}'. Hack off 0x and convert to bytes as
you go.
> Jeez!
>
> Yes I can see a way to do it, but then again who knows what format
this data
> is in. It *says* bits, but there are more than just bits involved.
I'd say
> ask Agilent.
> -SHAWN-
>
>
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Hello from Gregg C Levine
Very different. *.ico files are created using the same tools that create *.bmp files when using VS (Visual Studio). *.icn come from development tools that were originally running on HP/UX. After all that is the operating system that originally hosted VEE. Those files were icon files for an X Windows or Motif viewed application. It depends on the chosen desktop manager. I suspect it was Motif because of how the windows on the original releases of VEE behaved. But since I'm not all familiar with HP/UX I might be some what off base there.
Although X Windows also used *.xpm files.

By original releases I mean the Version 3 one for Windows 3.11 and the Version 4 one for Windows 95/NT. And eventually the same went for the early releases of Version 5. By the time we got to the 6 series and even the current 7 series, things looked more like native Windows, and less like anything ported.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> Sent: Monday, February 20, 2006 4:07 PM
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] Icon formats
>
> > Does anybody know how I might
> > convert ".ico" files or perhaps
> > generate ".icn" files directly?
>
> I had no idea they were different...
>
> Hmmm... they're text files that define bitmap data. Welp, start with
width
> and height, then at the fourth line suck in comma separated data,
quit when
> you find a right bracket '}'. Hack off 0x and convert to bytes as
you go.
> Jeez!
>
> Yes I can see a way to do it, but then again who knows what format
this data
> is in. It *says* bits, but there are more than just bits involved.
I'd say
> ask Agilent.
> -SHAWN-
>
>
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VRFuser Feb 20, 2006 2:47 PM
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> Very different.

I'd have to say advantage Windows on this one. Just about all the bitmap formats it deals with are interchangeable more or less. An .ico file is the same as a .bmp file with a different header.

Given the icn format, this conversion (icn to ico) is a breeze. Read in the data, construct a bitmap and save as an icon.
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> Very different.

I'd have to say advantage Windows on this one. Just about all the bitmap formats it deals with are interchangeable more or less. An .ico file is the same as a .bmp file with a different header.

Given the icn format, this conversion (icn to ico) is a breeze. Read in the data, construct a bitmap and save as an icon.
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VRFuser Feb 20, 2006 3:16 PM
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Remember the goal is to go from an .ico file (that I can make easily) to a .icn file that I can use with a Vee object.

Barrie

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> Given the icn format, this conversion (icn to ico) is a breeze. Read
> in the data, construct a bitmap and save as an icon.
> -SHAWN-

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Remember the goal is to go from an .ico file (that I can make easily) to a .icn file that I can use with a Vee object.

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Shawn Fessenden wrote:

> Given the icn format, this conversion (icn to ico) is a breeze. Read
> in the data, construct a bitmap and save as an icon.
> -SHAWN-

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VRFuser Feb 20, 2006 4:45 PM
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Hi All,

I have a new Pickering Switch Card (50-513-021) that I am trying to get
working with a "non VEE" software control program. It is not going very
well, so far. As a backup route, has anyone used a pickering relay card
with VEE? Any sample Code?

Best Regards,

Tom Daniels
Sr. Test Engineer
The Morey Corporation
100 Morey Drive
Woodridge, IL 60517
T: (630) 754-2256
F: (630) 754-2656
tdaniels@moreycorp.com

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