<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2604" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=099085811-05042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Doesn't seem to affect (or be caused by??) any other programs. Monitoring system processes doesn't indicate any new process starting or any increase in system idle processes, etc at the time of the slow down. Vee is consuming pretty much all of the system time at 90% or something close. Also, if you change the system time to 1 hour later, it immediately cures the problem. Could there be some bug in the vee "timing related" functions like "on cycle", "delay", etc????</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=099085811-05042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=099085811-05042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If anyone could confirm my findings it would be very useful to me as when I first saw this I did think I was crazy!</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=099085811-05042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=099085811-05042005><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Nick</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><HR tabIndex=-1><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Baranski, Detlef [mailto:Detlef.Baranski@pilkington.de] <BR><B>Sent:</B> 05 April 2005 09:31<BR><B>To:</B> 'Nick Evans'; VRF<BR><B>Subject:</B> AW: [vrf] Vee Pro 6.03 runtime slowing down at midnight.<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005>Is this slowing down just belonging to VEE or also other apps?</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005>Can you monitor it via "CPU-load" or similar?</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005>Sometimes windows starts services like indexing or updating at certain times. Have a look in your service manager.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005>But i can not believe that this makes a just dramatic slowdown,...but everything is possible in the PC-World.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005>Or is it Harddisk-defragmentation ...or backup...or NSA control...</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005>waiting to hear your solution,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005>good luck</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005>detlef</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=588032708-05042005></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Nick Evans [mailto:nick@genesysibs.com]<BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Dienstag, 5. April 2005 05:14<BR><B>An:</B> VRF<BR><B>Betreff:</B> [vrf] Vee Pro 6.03 runtime slowing down at midnight.<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hi All</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>A customer has just demonstrated a very strange problem to me. We have a vee 6.03 programe running on a windows 2000 workstation under runtime. It works fine unless the PC system time reaches midnight. At this point, the operation of the vee program slows to the point that it appears to have hung up (it hasn't it is just working very, very slowly). The system remains like this as long as the system time is somewhere within the midnight hour. As soon as the time reaches 1:00am or is set to a time other than the midnight hour, the system recovers performance immediately. I have not yet had opportunity to try this with Vee 6.03 development so don't know if it is limited to runtime. Also, do not have the resources with me at the moment to try vee 7.01 runtime.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>The vee program in question is not constantly checking system time but does have some delays and "on cycles" in it! </FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>The problem is not limited to this particular vee program or this PC. Other vee programs on this PC run the same way and the problem has also been demonstrated on another PC.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am ashamed to admit to my software engineering peers that I have obviously not been burning the midnight oil whilst coding as I have never seen this problem before.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Does anyone have any idea as to what may be causing this problem and what can be done to fix it?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=283190703-05042005><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nick</FONT></SPAN></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE><P><FONT face=Arial size=2>This message and any attachments are confidential, for the exclusive use of the addressee and may be legally privileged. 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</font><p><font size=2 face="sans-serif">....Rob</font><p>
<table width=100%><tr valign=top><td><td><font size=1 face="sans-serif"><b>"Alexander Poulikakos (KI/EAB)" |alexander.poulikakos@ericsson.com></b></font><p><font size=1 face="sans-serif">04/04/2005 05:49 AM</font>
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<font size=2><tt>Hi Vrf
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>Can anyone please explain this behaviour in VEE 7.03?
See attached file: bug1_vee7.03.vee
Why is the JNC executing?
NOTE:
if you connect something to the error pin, then everything seems to work fine.
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>Does everyone have this behaviour, or is it just my lab invironment?
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>I did the same example in VEE 6.03 and it seems to be working fine.
see attached file: bug1_vee6.03.vee
NOTE:
if you turn on "Show execution flow" you'll notice that the Formula box
never gets that green highlighting, why?
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<font size=2><tt>Regards,
Alex
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<font size=2><tt>Hi Vrf
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>Can anyone please explain this behaviour in VEE 7.03?
See attached file: bug1_vee7.03.vee
Why is the JNC executing?
NOTE:
if you connect something to the error pin, then everything seems to work fine.
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>Does everyone have this behaviour, or is it just my lab invironment?
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>I did the same example in VEE 6.03 and it seems to be working fine.
see attached file: bug1_vee6.03.vee
NOTE:
if you turn on "Show execution flow" you'll notice that the Formula box
never gets that green highlighting, why?
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>Regards,
Alex
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<font size=2><tt>Hi Vrf
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>Can anyone please explain this behaviour in VEE 7.03?
See attached file: bug1_vee7.03.vee
Why is the JNC executing?
NOTE:
if you connect something to the error pin, then everything seems to work fine.
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>Does everyone have this behaviour, or is it just my lab invironment?
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>I did the same example in VEE 6.03 and it seems to be working fine.
see attached file: bug1_vee6.03.vee
NOTE:
if you turn on "Show execution flow" you'll notice that the Formula box
never gets that green highlighting, why?
</tt></font>
<font size=2><tt>Regards,
Alex
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How about updating your NI-VISA(or NI-MAX) to the newest vrsion?
Regards,
FUKUI utaka
> "VEE Pro(JC Park)" wrote:
>
> Hi VRF,
>
>
>
> I have a GPIB equipment(TC2300A, www.tescom-lab.com) and this works
> fine under configuration of $B!H (BNI-MAX + NI-4882(ver2.2) +
> NI-PCMCIA-GPIB $B!I (B.(The equipment responses well for *IDN?).
>
>
>
> It still detects the equipment using Agilent Connection Expert(Agilent
> Connection Expert +NI-4882(ver2.2) + NI-PCMCIA-GPIB) as attached
> screen shoot. However it doesn $B!G (Bt response for *IDN?. The EOL of the
> equipment was set as 0A(in hex).
>
>
>
> Suggestion for me to try??
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> JC Park
>
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Regards,
FUKUI utaka
> "VEE Pro(JC Park)" wrote:
>
> Hi VRF,
>
>
>
> I have a GPIB equipment(TC2300A, www.tescom-lab.com) and this works
> fine under configuration of $B!H (BNI-MAX + NI-4882(ver2.2) +
> NI-PCMCIA-GPIB $B!I (B.(The equipment responses well for *IDN?).
>
>
>
> It still detects the equipment using Agilent Connection Expert(Agilent
> Connection Expert +NI-4882(ver2.2) + NI-PCMCIA-GPIB) as attached
> screen shoot. However it doesn $B!G (Bt response for *IDN?. The EOL of the
> equipment was set as 0A(in hex).
>
>
>
> Suggestion for me to try??
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> JC Park
>
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How about updating your NI-VISA(or NI-MAX) to the newest vrsion?
Regards,
FUKUI utaka
> "VEE Pro(JC Park)" wrote:
>
> Hi VRF,
>
>
>
> I have a GPIB equipment(TC2300A, www.tescom-lab.com) and this works
> fine under configuration of $B!H (BNI-MAX + NI-4882(ver2.2) +
> NI-PCMCIA-GPIB $B!I (B.(The equipment responses well for *IDN?).
>
>
>
> It still detects the equipment using Agilent Connection Expert(Agilent
> Connection Expert +NI-4882(ver2.2) + NI-PCMCIA-GPIB) as attached
> screen shoot. However it doesn $B!G (Bt response for *IDN?. The EOL of the
> equipment was set as 0A(in hex).
>
>
>
> Suggestion for me to try??
>
>
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
> JC Park
>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [vrf] Seriousbug/Strange behaviour in VEE 7.03</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p><tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Alex</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Samething here Win2K/VEE 7.01</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Idid notice that VEE 6 example is in VEE 3 execution mode. When I changed theVEE 7 example to VEE 3 execution mode, it worked the same as your VEE 6example. I tried VEE 4 & VEE 5 modes, they resulted in the same (unexpected)behaviour as the VEE 7 example.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Myvote says this is a BUG. Although, a case could be made that the output of aformula with an ERROR is undefined, especially when you choose to ignore anyerrors. I tried feeding the output pin to an alphanumeric display and it thenworks OK, I also tried connecting the error pin to an alphanumeric display (asyou mentioned) and it then works OK. If I feed the output through thealphanumeric display via a junction the display gets a NIL value. I alsoadded a formula (a*2) in line with the JCT ==> a*2 ==> alpha display andget a "0" output of the formula. Not what one would expect but sincewe are ignoring the error what do we really expect?</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Again,<b><font color=blue><span style='color:blue;font-weight:bold'>I vote BUG !!!!</span></font></b> If nothing else, just due to the inconsistancy. I don't recommend movingto VEE 3 execution mode however.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>....Rob</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=1 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size: 7.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;font-weight:bold'>"Alexander Poulikakos (KI/EAB)" |alexander.poulikakos@ericsson.com></span></font></b> <o:p></o:p></p> <p><font size=1 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family: sans-serif'>04/04/2005 05:49 AM</span></font>
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<font size=1 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:sans-serif'> Subject: [vrf] Serious bug/Strange behaviour in VEE 7.03</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </td> </tr></table><p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>
</span></font><tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>HiVrf</span></font></tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
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<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Can anyoneplease explain this behaviour in VEE 7.03?</span></font></tt><font size=2face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt><font face="Courier New">See attached file: bug1_vee7.03.vee</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Why is the JNC executing?</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">NOTE:</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">if you connect something to the error pin, theneverything seems to work fine.</font></tt>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Doeseveryone have this behaviour, or is it just my lab invironment?</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I did thesame example in VEE 6.03 and it seems to be working fine.</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt><font face="Courier New">see attached file: bug1_vee6.03.vee</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">NOTE:</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">if you turn on "Show execution flow"you'll notice that the Formula box</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">never gets that green highlighting, why?</font></tt>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards,</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Alex</font></tt>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 04, 2005 10:32AM
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [vrf] Seriousbug/Strange behaviour in VEE 7.03</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p><tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Alex</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Samething here Win2K/VEE 7.01</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Idid notice that VEE 6 example is in VEE 3 execution mode. When I changed theVEE 7 example to VEE 3 execution mode, it worked the same as your VEE 6example. I tried VEE 4 & VEE 5 modes, they resulted in the same (unexpected)behaviour as the VEE 7 example.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Myvote says this is a BUG. Although, a case could be made that the output of aformula with an ERROR is undefined, especially when you choose to ignore anyerrors. I tried feeding the output pin to an alphanumeric display and it thenworks OK, I also tried connecting the error pin to an alphanumeric display (asyou mentioned) and it then works OK. If I feed the output through thealphanumeric display via a junction the display gets a NIL value. I alsoadded a formula (a*2) in line with the JCT ==> a*2 ==> alpha display andget a "0" output of the formula. Not what one would expect but sincewe are ignoring the error what do we really expect?</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Again,<b><font color=blue><span style='color:blue;font-weight:bold'>I vote BUG !!!!</span></font></b> If nothing else, just due to the inconsistancy. I don't recommend movingto VEE 3 execution mode however.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>....Rob</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=1 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size: 7.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;font-weight:bold'>"Alexander Poulikakos (KI/EAB)" |alexander.poulikakos@ericsson.com></span></font></b> <o:p></o:p></p> <p><font size=1 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family: sans-serif'>04/04/2005 05:49 AM</span></font>
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<font size=1 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:sans-serif'> Subject: [vrf] Serious bug/Strange behaviour in VEE 7.03</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </td> </tr></table><p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>
</span></font><tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>HiVrf</span></font></tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Can anyoneplease explain this behaviour in VEE 7.03?</span></font></tt><font size=2face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt><font face="Courier New">See attached file: bug1_vee7.03.vee</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Why is the JNC executing?</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">NOTE:</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">if you connect something to the error pin, theneverything seems to work fine.</font></tt>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Doeseveryone have this behaviour, or is it just my lab invironment?</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I did thesame example in VEE 6.03 and it seems to be working fine.</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt><font face="Courier New">see attached file: bug1_vee6.03.vee</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">NOTE:</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">if you turn on "Show execution flow"you'll notice that the Formula box</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">never gets that green highlighting, why?</font></tt>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards,</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Alex</font></tt>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Monday, April 04, 2005 10:32AM
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> Re: [vrf] Seriousbug/Strange behaviour in VEE 7.03</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p><tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Alex</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>,</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Samething here Win2K/VEE 7.01</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Idid notice that VEE 6 example is in VEE 3 execution mode. When I changed theVEE 7 example to VEE 3 execution mode, it worked the same as your VEE 6example. I tried VEE 4 & VEE 5 modes, they resulted in the same (unexpected)behaviour as the VEE 7 example.</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Myvote says this is a BUG. Although, a case could be made that the output of aformula with an ERROR is undefined, especially when you choose to ignore anyerrors. I tried feeding the output pin to an alphanumeric display and it thenworks OK, I also tried connecting the error pin to an alphanumeric display (asyou mentioned) and it then works OK. If I feed the output through thealphanumeric display via a junction the display gets a NIL value. I alsoadded a formula (a*2) in line with the JCT ==> a*2 ==> alpha display andget a "0" output of the formula. Not what one would expect but sincewe are ignoring the error what do we really expect?</span></font> <o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>Again,<b><font color=blue><span style='color:blue;font-weight:bold'>I vote BUG !!!!</span></font></b> If nothing else, just due to the inconsistancy. I don't recommend movingto VEE 3 execution mode however.</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p><font size=2 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:sans-serif'>....Rob</span></font><o:p></o:p></p><p style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'>
<o:p></o:p></span></font></p><table class=MsoNormalTable border=0 cellpadding=0 width="100%" style='width:100.0%'> <tr> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p> </td> <td valign=top style='padding:.75pt .75pt .75pt .75pt'> <p class=MsoNormal><b><font size=1 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size: 7.5pt;font-family:sans-serif;font-weight:bold'>"Alexander Poulikakos (KI/EAB)" |alexander.poulikakos@ericsson.com></span></font></b> <o:p></o:p></p> <p><font size=1 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family: sans-serif'>04/04/2005 05:49 AM</span></font>
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<font size=1 face=sans-serif><span style='font-size:7.5pt;font-family:sans-serif'> Subject: [vrf] Serious bug/Strange behaviour in VEE 7.03</span></font><o:p></o:p></p> </td> </tr></table><p><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'>
</span></font><tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>HiVrf</span></font></tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Can anyoneplease explain this behaviour in VEE 7.03?</span></font></tt><font size=2face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt><font face="Courier New">See attached file: bug1_vee7.03.vee</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Why is the JNC executing?</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">NOTE:</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">if you connect something to the error pin, theneverything seems to work fine.</font></tt>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Doeseveryone have this behaviour, or is it just my lab invironment?</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>I did thesame example in VEE 6.03 and it seems to be working fine.</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt><font face="Courier New">see attached file: bug1_vee6.03.vee</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">NOTE:</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">if you turn on "Show execution flow"you'll notice that the Formula box</font></tt>
<tt><font face="Courier New">never gets that green highlighting, why?</font></tt>
</span></font>
<tt><font size=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt'>Regards,</span></font></tt><fontsize=2 face="Courier New"><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Courier New"'>
<tt><font face="Courier New">Alex</font></tt>
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