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Graeme (and all),

>Why can't we have more standard
>behaviour in dialogue boxes...

An unfortunate side effect of transplantation from X-Windows. I think it
probably wouldn't be too hard to implement standard behavior for the most
part, but one would probably have to give up "Assign to F-keys" for buttons.
-SHAWN-

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VRFuser Jan 13, 2003 6:05 PM
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Undo would rock...So would a better library of API calls to windows, and a
FLEX GRID object.

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> From: Richard Wise [mailto:Richard.Wise@raymarine.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 07:51
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> Subject: [vrf] RE: Vee Features
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> Yes, an 'undo' option would be nice too...
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> Hi all,
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> Does anyone else wish that Vee had a 'Zoom' feature?
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> There are many occasions when I have accidentally routed a
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VRFuser Jan 13, 2003 7:50 PM
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Forgot a couple;

How about better PRINT capabilities for graphic objects, the ability to
print a GRAPH and a table or other information on the same sheet would be
nice too. I would also like to see some low level version of a SEND KEYS
function, as well as a Window checker function that returns a 1 or 0 if a
window title exists, is focused, etc..

basically; GIMME NEW FUNCTIONALITY OR I WILL NEVER UPGRADE !!!!!!

Jeff Davis
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Fudge [mailto:AndrewF@genesysibs.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 08:44
> To: VEE vrf
> Subject: [vrf] Re: Vee Features
>
>
> Hello All
>
> I agree that a simple interface for common API calls would be
> very useful.
>
> I think the best Zoom feature possible is already in place. Go into
> UserObjects (Zoom In), and out of (zoom out)/(up a level).
> Would it be
> possible to easily identify different user objects and the
> like if they are
> smaller than they are at present? If there was only 1 zoom
> out factor at
> most, it would probably be difficult to work with (identify
> different user
> objects).
>
>
> Andrew F
> Genesys IBS
> UK
>
>
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> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Does anyone else wish that Vee had a 'Zoom' feature?
> >
> > There are many occasions when I have accidentally routed a
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VRFuser Jan 13, 2003 10:51 PM
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Yes, an 'undo' option would be nice too...

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Sent: 14 January 2003 14:50
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Hi all,

Does anyone else wish that Vee had a 'Zoom' feature?

There are many occasions when I have accidentally routed a connection wrongly or moved an object instead of the workspace!

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VRFuser Jan 13, 2003 11:43 PM
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Hello All

I agree that a simple interface for common API calls would be very useful.

I think the best Zoom feature possible is already in place. Go into
UserObjects (Zoom In), and out of (zoom out)/(up a level). Would it be
possible to easily identify different user objects and the like if they are
smaller than they are at present? If there was only 1 zoom out factor at
most, it would probably be difficult to work with (identify different user
objects).

Andrew F
Genesys IBS
UK

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> Hi all,
>
> Does anyone else wish that Vee had a 'Zoom' feature?
>
> There are many occasions when I have accidentally routed a connection
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>
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> Senior R&D Engineer
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VRFuser Jan 13, 2003 11:49 PM
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Hi all,

Does anyone else wish that Vee had a 'Zoom' feature?

There are many occasions when I have accidentally routed a connection wrongly or moved an object instead of the workspace!

--
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Senior R&D Engineer

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VRFuser Jan 14, 2003 3:41 AM
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I would love to see an easy ".exe" function that automatically installs
Vee runtime, the IO libraires and the runtime version of the program you
want. That would be great for all the people that say installing Vee for
just one program is too hard to do.

-----Original Message-----
From: Davis, Jeff [mailto:jeff.davis@cdi-es.com]
Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 11:50 AM
To: VEE vrf
Subject: [vrf] Re: Vee Features

Forgot a couple;

How about better PRINT capabilities for graphic objects, the ability to
print a GRAPH and a table or other information on the same sheet would
be nice too. I would also like to see some low level version of a SEND
KEYS function, as well as a Window checker function that returns a 1 or
0 if a window title exists, is focused, etc..

basically; GIMME NEW FUNCTIONALITY OR I WILL NEVER UPGRADE !!!!!!

Jeff Davis
Embedded Systems - CDI Technical Services
3137 E Elwood # 160
Phoenix, Arizona 85034
Phone: (602)431-4497 (x226)
Cell: (480)330-1431
Fax: (602)431-4435

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Fudge [mailto:AndrewF@genesysibs.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 08:44
> To: VEE vrf
> Subject: [vrf] Re: Vee Features
>
>
> Hello All
>
> I agree that a simple interface for common API calls would be very
> useful.
>
> I think the best Zoom feature possible is already in place. Go into
> UserObjects (Zoom In), and out of (zoom out)/(up a level). Would it be
> possible to easily identify different user objects and the
> like if they are
> smaller than they are at present? If there was only 1 zoom
> out factor at
> most, it would probably be difficult to work with (identify
> different user
> objects).
>
>
> Andrew F
> Genesys IBS
> UK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: HILTON,GRAEME (A-England,ex1) <graeme_hilton@agilent.com>
> To: VEE vrf <vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:49 PM
> Subject: [vrf] Vee Features
>
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Does anyone else wish that Vee had a 'Zoom' feature?
> >
> > There are many occasions when I have accidentally routed a
> connection
> wrongly or moved an object instead of the workspace!
> >
> > --
> > Graeme Hilton
> > Senior R&D Engineer
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VRFuser Jan 14, 2003 6:35 PM
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Hi,

You reminded me about some other things that annoy me.

Why can't we have more standard behaviour in dialogue boxes, formula boxes and any other text entry field? Like [Ctrl]+cursor moves to the next non-alphanumeric and [Ctrl]+[Shift]+cursor/end/home for selecting text.

An option to automatically save a runtime version of the program, whenever it is saved would be nice as well.

Lastly, I would like to be able to access a field inside a record from a Get Variable object, instead of having to use a Formula object or an Access Record > Get Field. Is this possible?

Well I think that's it for now!

Graeme

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From: hermann.ruckerbauer@infineon.com
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Sent: 14 January 2003 20:06
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Subject: [vrf] AW: Re: Vee Features

Hello,

and adding to the wishlist in addition to "Zoom" and "Undo" I would like to have more conventional windows behavior (at least for the windows version).

I think I got used to the behaviour in the meantime, so that i do not realize anymore, that the behaviour is not windows conform. E. g. the double click on the the top border of a window (don't remember how it is called) should switch between minimize and maximize. The UI could be improved quite a bit to be much easier to handle!

Hermann

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Von: Davis, Jeff [mailto:jeff.davis@cdi-es.com]
Gesendet am: Dienstag, 14. Januar 2003 17:50
An: VEE vrf
Betreff: [vrf] Re: Vee Features

Forgot a couple;

How about better PRINT capabilities for graphic objects, the ability to
print a GRAPH and a table or other information on the same sheet would be
nice too. I would also like to see some low level version of a SEND KEYS
function, as well as a Window checker function that returns a 1 or 0 if a
window title exists, is focused, etc..

basically; GIMME NEW FUNCTIONALITY OR I WILL NEVER UPGRADE !!!!!!

Jeff Davis
Embedded Systems - CDI Technical Services
3137 E Elwood # 160
Phoenix, Arizona 85034
Phone: (602)431-4497 (x226)
Cell: (480)330-1431
Fax: (602)431-4435

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Andrew Fudge [mailto:AndrewF@genesysibs.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 08:44
> To: VEE vrf
> Subject: [vrf] Re: Vee Features
>
>
> Hello All
>
> I agree that a simple interface for common API calls would be
> very useful.
>
> I think the best Zoom feature possible is already in place. Go into
> UserObjects (Zoom In), and out of (zoom out)/(up a level).
> Would it be
> possible to easily identify different user objects and the
> like if they are
> smaller than they are at present? If there was only 1 zoom
> out factor at
> most, it would probably be difficult to work with (identify
> different user
> objects).
>
>
> Andrew F
> Genesys IBS
> UK
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: HILTON,GRAEME (A-England,ex1) <graeme_hilton@agilent.com>
> To: VEE vrf <vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, January 14, 2003 2:49 PM
> Subject: [vrf] Vee Features
>
>
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Does anyone else wish that Vee had a 'Zoom' feature?
> >
> > There are many occasions when I have accidentally routed a
> connection
> wrongly or moved an object instead of the workspace!
> >
> > --
> > Graeme Hilton
> > Senior R&D Engineer

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VRFuser Jan 15, 2003 5:27 PM
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Hi Jeff

>So would a better library of API calls to windows,

Would you like to see that implemented as a loadable VEE library or an
ActiveX control?
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