<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office"><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2719.2200" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046132923-25022003>Hi,Mike. I don't want to delay an acknowledgement any longer, but I don't havean answer either.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPANclass=046132923-25022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=046132923-25022003>A veryinteresting idea, but there are aspects we will need to check with ourmanagement. Give us a few days to sort it out.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPANclass=046132923-25022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPANclass=046132923-25022003>Sincerely,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPANclass=046132923-25022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><P><FONT size=2>Scott Bayes<BR>Software Technical Support<BR><BR>AgilentTechnologies, Inc.<BR>815 14th Street S.W.<BR>Loveland, CO, U.S.A.80537<BR><BR>970 679 3799 Tel<BR>970 635 6867 Fax</FONT> </P><BLOCKQUOTEstyle="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mike Groves [mailto:mikegroves@pacbell.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, February 25, 2003 4:19 AM<BR><B>To:</B> VEE vrf<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf] RE: Event Postings on VRF<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=093410211-25022003>Scott and Nicole,</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=093410211-25022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=093410211-25022003>In this poor economy, could we perhaps allow and/or encourage postings that provide job opportunities related to VEE programming? I'm sure I'm not the only one that would appreciate it. If we start seeing a great flood of postings we can sure change the rules again, but for the short term, I think we are pretty safe.</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=093410211-25022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=093410211-25022003>Hey, more jobs in VEE programming means more copies of VEE to be sold, right? </SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=093410211-25022003></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=093410211-25022003>Mike Groves</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=093410211-25022003>Unemployed (If you didn't guess already.)</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> DIERKSHEIDE,NICOLE (A-Loveland,ex1) [mailto:nicole_dierksheide@agilent.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, February 21, 2003 12:21 PM<BR><B>To:</B> VEE vrf<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf] Event Postings on VRF<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Hi vrf-ers,</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We would like to start allowing postings of VEE-related events to the vrf. But we need to make some rules so that such postings don't overwhelm vrf, or cause major annoyance.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Here's our first pass at the rules and suggestions. They were prompted by a request from Amplicon and Meilhaus to post the announcement that just appeared.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Event Announcer:</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">---------------------</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">1) No overt advertising.<SPAN style="mso-spacerun: yes"> </SPAN>Vrf is a user group, not a marketplace. Announcements need to be in the group's interest.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">You can announce the event, including such information as topics and products covered, but do not advertise unrelated products or spam the vrf with advertising. Stick to the facts of the event. </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">2) Limit of 2 postings per event. We don't want spamming.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">One reminder posting may follow up an introduction posting explaining what the event is and the attendance details.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">3) No large attachments, such as bitmaps, should be included. Some users have slow or limited connections.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">It is preferred to point to a web site that will include all the event details and any needed downloads, such as registration forms. Remember that many vrf subscribers use a dial-up connection to check email so any emails with large attachments are not preferred. Try to keep below 30KB.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">4) If possible, post any related material, such as slides with speaker notes, to a web site or the vrf for those unable to attend. </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Keep in mind the vrf is an international audience and many members will not be able to attend an event but would appreciate if the material covered could be shared. You may find that you are deluged with requests for more information or material, so be prepared.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">5) Agilent does not respond to postings made by others. We have day jobs!</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Members sending questions to Agilent about an event sponsored by another company will not receive a response from us.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">6) Provide reliable contact information for the event.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Include contact information for the event in the case that someone has a question.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Event Audience:</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">-------------------</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">1) If you attend an event and acquire materials, don't post the materials to the vrf. They may be copyrighted.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Instead, you could suggest to the event organizer that they make the materials available on the web. No copyright concerns that way, and no huge postings on the vrf, either.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">2) Agilent does not respond to questions about an event sponsored by another company.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">Members sending questions to Agilent about an event sponsored by another company will not receive a response from us. If you have questions about an event contact the person/company hosting the event, or ask on the vrf itself.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">3) The event sponsor owns the event information.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">The sponsor is not obligated to share the information outside the event. If the event sponsor chooses not to share the material, do not spam the event sponsor or vrf with multiple requests for the information or material.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">If you want to post an event announcement and aren't sure about whether it obeys the rules, send an email to owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com and we'll help evaluate for you.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"> <o:p></o:p></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt">We will remove postings that don't meet these rules, so please cooperate. But we're also excited at this possible new use of the vrf, so we're looking for good postings and good ideas.</P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN class=468501920-21022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Regards,</FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN class=468501920-21022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Scott Bayes</FONT></SPAN></P> <P class=MsoNormal style="MARGIN: 0in 0in 0pt"><SPAN class=468501920-21022003><FONT face=Arial size=2>Nicole Dierksheide</FONT></SPAN></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>---<BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: scott_bayes@agilent.com<BR>To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".</BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>