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vrf Terrible Tabs

Question asked by VRFuser on Dec 11, 2001
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><TITLE>Terrible Tabs</TITLE><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2600.0" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>Thanks for the suggestions and support. I'm not really looking for a workaround,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>I just get a kick out of isolating out weird things that I see down to a simple</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>example. Hopefully the Agilent developers will take it and run with it.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>I first noticed it when I was displaying some data I had cut and pasted from</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>Excel which comes</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001> tab delimited. It's such a common thing to do, I'm surprised</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>it wasn't submitted to Agilent before. (Unless it's unique to VEE 6, which I</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>doubt.)</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>Yes, it does tend to follow the underlying "grid" of the VEE Program window. You</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>can micro-adjust it, or the Main window it's in, to get any initial spacing you</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>want. After the first TAB, the rest are spaced out equally from it. I also don't</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>like </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>the way </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>it LOOKS like you can put 8 characters between any 2 tabs, but it</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>only lets you </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>put 7, then it skips to the next TAB (using the standard fixed font).</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>If I had my way, I would have a handle in the "Default Preferences" box where</SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001> I</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>could specify what a TAB does. Say for a fixed font, it would have an alignment</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>point every so many </SPAN></FONT><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>characters (8 being the default). A proportional font would</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>be a little trickier. You could use "every so many pixels" or some kind of rule</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>like that. Heck the "Alignment Spacing" uses so many pixels, why couldn't TAB?</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>Mike Groves</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>UltraRF</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=132354822-11122001>Sunnyvale, CA</SPAN></FONT></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader><FONT face="Times New Roman"   size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> OSSMANN,BILL   (A-hsgAndover,ex1) [mailto:bill_ossmann@hsgmed.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday,   December 11, 2001 2:15 PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'VEE Reflector (E-mail)'<BR><B>Cc:</B>   'Mike Groves'<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: vrf Terrible Tabs<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN   class=031391122-11122001>Mike,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN   class=031391122-11122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN   class=031391122-11122001>Scott suggested that this insight might lead to a   workaround. Specifically, if you can stand the variable amount of leading   white space, consider starting the string with a TAB.</SPAN></FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN   class=031391122-11122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN   class=031391122-11122001>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN   class=031391122-11122001>Bill Ossmann</SPAN></FONT></DIV>  <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN   class=031391122-11122001>  <P><FONT size=2>--<BR>bill_ossmann@hsgmed.com<BR>Philips Ultrasound   </FONT></P></SPAN></FONT></DIV>  <BLOCKQUOTE   style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid; MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma     size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> BAYES,SCOTT     (A-Loveland,ex1) <BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, December 11, 2001 5:07     PM<BR><B>To:</B> 'VEE Reflector (E-mail)'<BR><B>Cc:</B> 'Mike Groves';     OSSMANN,BILL (A-hsgAndover,ex1)<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: vrf Terrible     Tabs<BR><BR></DIV></FONT>    <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px">      <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>      <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN       class=937255921-11122001>Scott,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>      <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN       class=937255921-11122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>      <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN       class=937255921-11122001>For what it's worth, I played with Mike's example       for a couple of minutes and discovered that the TABs appear to be attached       to the VEE window. You can see this if you duplicate the Logging       Alphanumeric at slightly different horizontal positions and then       experiment with moving the Work Area, opening and closing the Program       Explorer (both change the displays), and moving the VEE Window (doesn't       change the displays).</SPAN></FONT></DIV>      <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN       class=937255921-11122001></SPAN></FONT> </DIV>      <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN       class=937255921-11122001>Regards,</SPAN></FONT></DIV>      <DIV><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN       class=937255921-11122001>Bill Ossmann</SPAN></FONT><FONT       face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN       class=937255921-11122001><FONT       size=2></FONT></SPAN></FONT></DIV></FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>    <DIV><SPAN class=282360422-11122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>I     also observed something like that, but didn't pursue it (good experiment you     ran!). Knowing _how_ it's broken might lead to some kind of workaround for     you, Mike.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>    <DIV><SPAN class=282360422-11122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff     size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>    <DIV><SPAN class=282360422-11122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff     size=2>Thanks, Bill.</FONT></SPAN></DIV>    <DIV><SPAN class=282360422-11122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff     size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>    <DIV><SPAN class=282360422-11122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff     size=2>Sincerely,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>    <DIV><SPAN class=282360422-11122001><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff     size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>    <P><FONT size=2>Scott Bayes<BR>Software Technical Support<BR><BR>Agilent     Technologies, Inc.<BR>815 14th Street S.W.<BR>Loveland, CO, U.S.A.     80537<BR><BR>970 679 3799 Tel<BR>970 635 6867 Fax</FONT></P></BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE></BODY></HTML>  

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