<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML xmlns="http://www.w3.org/TR/REC-html40" xmlns:o = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:office" xmlns:w = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:word" xmlns:st1 = "urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"><HEAD><TITLE>Nachricht</TITLE><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=UTF-8"><META content=Word.Document name=ProgId><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1170" name=GENERATOR><META content="Microsoft Word 10" name=Originator><LINK href="cid:filelist.xml@01C38C26.376249A0" rel=File-List><o:SmartTagType name="City" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><o:SmartTagType name="place" namespaceuri="urn:schemas-microsoft-com:office:smarttags"></o:SmartTagType><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <o:OfficeDocumentSettings> <o:DoNotRelyOnCSS/> </o:OfficeDocumentSettings></xml><![endif]--><!--[if gte mso 9]><xml> <w:WordDocument> <w:SpellingState>Clean</w:SpellingState> <w:GrammarState>Clean</w:GrammarState> <w:DocumentKind>DocumentEmail</w:DocumentKind> <w:EnvelopeVis/> <w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery>0</w:DisplayHorizontalDrawingGridEvery> <w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery>2</w:DisplayVerticalDrawingGridEvery> <w:Compatibility> <w:SpaceForUL/> <w:BalanceSingleByteDoubleByteWidth/> <w:DoNotLeaveBackslashAlone/> <w:ULTrailSpace/> <w:DoNotExpandShiftReturn/> <w:AdjustLineHeightInTable/> <w:BreakWrappedTables/> <w:SnapToGridInCell/> <w:WrapTextWithPunct/> <w:UseAsianBreakRules/> <w:UseFELayout/> </w:Compatibility> <w:BrowserLevel>MicrosoftInternetExplorer4</w:BrowserLevel> </w:WordDocument></xml><![endif]--><!--[if !mso]><STYLE>st1:* { BEHAVIOR: url(#default#ieooui)}</STYLE><![endif]--><STYLE>@font-face { font-family: 바탕;}@font-face { font-family: 굴림;}@font-face { font-family: @굴림;}@font-face { font-family: @바탕;}@page {mso-page-border-surround-header: no; mso-page-border-surround-footer: no; }@page Section1 {size: 595.3pt 841.9pt; margin: 99.25pt 3.0cm 3.0cm 3.0cm; mso-header-margin: 42.55pt; mso-footer-margin: 49.6pt; mso-paper-source: 0; layout-grid: 18.0pt; }P.MsoNormal { TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 바탕; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: none; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt}LI.MsoNormal { TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 바탕; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: none; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt}DIV.MsoNormal { TEXT-JUSTIFY: inter-ideograph; FONT-SIZE: 10pt; MARGIN: 0cm 0cm 0pt; FONT-FAMILY: 바탕; TEXT-ALIGN: justify; mso-bidi-font-size: 12.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-bidi-font-family: "Times New Roman"; mso-style-parent: ""; mso-pagination: none; mso-font-kerning: 1.0pt}A:link { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single}SPAN.MsoHyperlink { COLOR: blue; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single}A:visited { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single}SPAN.MsoHyperlinkFollowed { COLOR: purple; TEXT-DECORATION: underline; text-underline: single}SPAN.EmailStyle17 { COLOR: windowtext; FONT-FAMILY: 굴림; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial; mso-style-type: personal-compose; mso-style-noshow: yes; mso-ansi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 굴림; mso-fareast-font-family: 굴림}SPAN.SpellE { mso-style-name: ""; mso-spl-e: yes}SPAN.GramE { mso-style-name: ""; mso-gram-e: yes}DIV.Section1 { page: Section1}</STYLE><!--[if gte mso 10]><style> /* Style Definitions */ table.MsoNormalTable {mso-style-name:"표준 표"; mso-tstyle-rowband-size:0; mso-tstyle-colband-size:0; mso-style-noshow:yes; mso-style-parent:""; mso-padding-alt:0cm 5.4pt 0cm 5.4pt; mso-para-margin:0cm; mso-para-margin-bottom:.0001pt; mso-pagination:widow-orphan; font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Times New Roman";}</style><![endif]--></HEAD><BODY lang=KO style="tab-interval: 40.0pt" vLink=purple link=blue><DIV><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>I think my original statement was correct. A person <SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>would need to take</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>waveform </FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>"C" and solve for each zero crossing. The zeros may or may not</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>lie on an exact </FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>interval of the X mapping, so you can't just look in the</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=906091910-06102003>"C" waveform for the solution. Maybe I should have been more clear.</SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=906091910-06102003></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=906091910-06102003>Mike</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=906091910-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></SPAN></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> hermann.ruckerbauer@infineon.com [mailto:hermann.ruckerbauer@infineon.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 06, 2003 3:15 AM<BR><B>To:</B> mikegroves@pacbell.net; vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com<BR><B>Subject:</B> AW: [vrf] RE: Any way to get crossing point (value) of two different wave in XY trace or Waveform display?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973221410-06102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hi all,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973221410-06102003></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973221410-06102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>There might be no point, where you get a zero, therefore you have to take the absolute number of C, and find the minimum!</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973221410-06102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=973221410-06102003><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Hermann</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV></DIV> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=de dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Ursprüngliche Nachricht-----<BR><B>Von:</B> Mike Groves [mailto:mikegroves@pacbell.net] <BR><B>Gesendet:</B> Montag, 6. Oktober 2003 10:57<BR><B>An:</B> VEE vrf<BR><B>Betreff:</B> [vrf] RE: Any way to get crossing point (value) of two different wave in XY trace or Waveform display?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>Hi there,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>I would think that if you have 2 waveforms "A" and "B", in a formula box you</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>can </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>simply say (A-B) and create a 3rd waveform "C" on the output pin. Wherever</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>"C" crosses zero, were the points that A and B were </FONT></SPAN><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>equal. Every other point</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>in waveform "C" will be the difference of A and B.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>Is this what you were after?</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=609234908-06102003><FONT face="Courier New" color=#0000ff size=2>Mike Groves</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Keun Soo JO [mailto:udaman@sec.samsung.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Monday, October 06, 2003 12:20 AM<BR><B>To:</B> VEE vrf<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf] Any way to get crossing point (value) of two different wave in XY trace or Waveform display?<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV class=Section1 style="LAYOUT-GRID: 18pt none"> <P class=MsoNormal><SPAN class=GramE><FONT face=굴림 size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 굴림; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Any way to get a crossing point (value) of two different waves in <SPAN class=SpellE>XYtrace</SPAN> or Waveform display?</SPAN></FONT></SPAN><FONT face=굴림><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: 굴림; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"><o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=굴림 size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; FONT-FAMILY: 굴림; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">Eventually, I</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=Arial><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: Arial; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-ascii-font-family: 굴림; mso-fareast-font-family: 굴림">’</SPAN></FONT><FONT face=굴림><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-FAMILY: 굴림; mso-bidi-font-size: 10.0pt; mso-hansi-font-family: Arial; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial">d like to get a <SPAN class=GramE>delta(</SPAN>difference) (value) of two crossing points made of two waveform in <SPAN class=SpellE>XYtrace</SPAN> display.<o:p></o:p></SPAN></FONT></P> <P class=MsoNormal><FONT face=굴림 size=2><SPAN lang=EN-US style="FONT-SIZE: 10pt; 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