Yeah, that's what I thought.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawnfess@comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:00 PM
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] timing conversions
>
>
> > Has anyone successfully accomplished this?
>
> Simplicity itself, to a point. One equals one second, so
> 1000ms. = 1. 60
> seconds = 1 minute. 60 minutes = 1 hour. Check: hmsToSec(1,
> 0, 0) = 3600, 60
> * 60 = 3600. Continue for days and weeks (24 hours a day, 7
> days a week).
>
> When you get to months and years, now you've got a problem.
> What month? What
> year? What month *in* what year? If you want to skip months
> and just say
> there are 365.25 days a year, that's usually close enough but
> the number of
> days in a year is changing all the time. Come to that, the
> number of hours
> in a day is lengthens at a faster rate than number of days in a year
> changes. In order to calculate these quantities exactly you
> need precise
> orbital data (of the Earth-Moon system for year, of the Moon for day).
>
> You've touched upon one of the greatest astronomical problems
> of all time,
> and mankind has spent most of its civilized existence (and much of its
> pre-civilized existence) simply trying to answer these
> questions. The Julian
> calendar added one day to February every four years, but that started
> throwing the calendar out of whack with reality. Some of the
> greatest minds
> in history have worked on the problem to no avail. Royal and
> Papal councils
> (specifically those of Nicaea and Trent in 325 & 1563
> respectively) made
> suggestions.
>
> The most "shocking" change was made by Pope Gregory XIII (at the
> recommendation of the Council of Trent), who decreed that
> Thursday, October
> 4th, 1582 would be followed by Friday, October 15, 1582. This
> marked the
> beginning of the Gregorian calendar as we know it today. And
> we're still not
> done. NIST is constantly inserting "leap seconds" in the year
> to keep the
> calendar in step with the seasons. And there's really no end in sight.
>
> The only events that we can be absolutely sure of are the solstices &
> equinoxes. The period of these events change at different
> rates depending on
> the relative positions of the major gravitating bodies in the
> Sol's grip.
> The length of the day depends on how fast the Earth rotates
> and that rate
> slows as the Moon drifts away. The measurement of time is
> somewhat relative
> on all fronts. But at least not for the same reason that Einstein
> discovered! One is hard put to it to decide which is the
> more... distressing
>
> -SHAWN-
>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawnfess@comcast.net]
> Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 1:00 PM
> To: VRF
> Subject: RE: [vrf] timing conversions
>
>
> > Has anyone successfully accomplished this?
>
> Simplicity itself, to a point. One equals one second, so
> 1000ms. = 1. 60
> seconds = 1 minute. 60 minutes = 1 hour. Check: hmsToSec(1,
> 0, 0) = 3600, 60
> * 60 = 3600. Continue for days and weeks (24 hours a day, 7
> days a week).
>
> When you get to months and years, now you've got a problem.
> What month? What
> year? What month *in* what year? If you want to skip months
> and just say
> there are 365.25 days a year, that's usually close enough but
> the number of
> days in a year is changing all the time. Come to that, the
> number of hours
> in a day is lengthens at a faster rate than number of days in a year
> changes. In order to calculate these quantities exactly you
> need precise
> orbital data (of the Earth-Moon system for year, of the Moon for day).
>
> You've touched upon one of the greatest astronomical problems
> of all time,
> and mankind has spent most of its civilized existence (and much of its
> pre-civilized existence) simply trying to answer these
> questions. The Julian
> calendar added one day to February every four years, but that started
> throwing the calendar out of whack with reality. Some of the
> greatest minds
> in history have worked on the problem to no avail. Royal and
> Papal councils
> (specifically those of Nicaea and Trent in 325 & 1563
> respectively) made
> suggestions.
>
> The most "shocking" change was made by Pope Gregory XIII (at the
> recommendation of the Council of Trent), who decreed that
> Thursday, October
> 4th, 1582 would be followed by Friday, October 15, 1582. This
> marked the
> beginning of the Gregorian calendar as we know it today. And
> we're still not
> done. NIST is constantly inserting "leap seconds" in the year
> to keep the
> calendar in step with the seasons. And there's really no end in sight.
>
> The only events that we can be absolutely sure of are the solstices &
> equinoxes. The period of these events change at different
> rates depending on
> the relative positions of the major gravitating bodies in the
> Sol's grip.
> The length of the day depends on how fast the Earth rotates
> and that rate
> slows as the Moon drifts away. The measurement of time is
> somewhat relative
> on all fronts. But at least not for the same reason that Einstein
> discovered! One is hard put to it to decide which is the
> more... distressing
>
> -SHAWN-
>
>
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 24, 2006 8:12AM
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [vrf] timing conversions</span></font><o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><span style='font-size:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin:0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt'><font size=2face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Thank you all forgreat feedback.
My next question is if I wanted to find elapsed time between two
different times, is there a function in Vee that computes that
automatically?
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> Wednesday, May 24, 200610:12 AM
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Simplicity itself, to a point. One equals one second, so 1000ms. = 1. 60
seconds = 1 minute. 60 minutes = 1 hour. Check: hmsToSec(1, 0, 0) = 3600, 60
* 60 = 3600. Continue for days and weeks (24 hours a day, 7 days a week).
When you get to months and years, now you've got a problem. What month? What
year? What month *in* what year? If you want to skip months and just say
there are 365.25 days a year, that's usually close enough but the number of
days in a year is changing all the time. Come to that, the number of hours
in a day is lengthens at a faster rate than number of days in a year
changes. In order to calculate these quantities exactly you need precise
orbital data (of the Earth-Moon system for year, of the Moon for day).
You've touched upon one of the greatest astronomical problems of all time,
and mankind has spent most of its civilized existence (and much of its
pre-civilized existence) simply trying to answer these questions. The Julian
calendar added one day to February every four years, but that started
throwing the calendar out of whack with reality. Some of the greatest minds
in history have worked on the problem to no avail. Royal and Papal councils
(specifically those of Nicaea and Trent in 325 & 1563 respectively) made
suggestions.
The most "shocking" change was made by Pope Gregory XIII (at the
recommendation of the Council of Trent), who decreed that Thursday, October
4th, 1582 would be followed by Friday, October 15, 1582. This marked the
beginning of the Gregorian calendar as we know it today. And we're still not
done. NIST is constantly inserting "leap seconds" in the year to keep the
calendar in step with the seasons. And there's really no end in sight.
The only events that we can be absolutely sure of are the solstices &
equinoxes. The period of these events change at different rates depending on
the relative positions of the major gravitating bodies in the Sol's grip.
The length of the day depends on how fast the Earth rotates and that rate
slows as the Moon drifts away. The measurement of time is somewhat relative
on all fronts. But at least not for the same reason that Einstein
discovered! One is hard put to it to decide which is the more... distressing
;-)
-SHAWN-
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Is there a way to do this in VEE?
For example, say my boss wants to see me in his office in 5 minutes. If I convert that to months or years I could put it off indefinitely.
2 week vacation? No problem: asYears(asMonths(2)) should do the trick.
Has anyone successfully accomplished this?
Bill
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From: Sadiya Fatima [mailto:sfatima@comtechefdata.com]
Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 11:12 AM
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Subject: [vrf] timing conversions
Thank you all for great feedback.
My next question is if I wanted to find elapsed time between two
different times, is there a function in Vee that computes that
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Sent: Wednesday, May 24, 2006 10:12 AM
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Leave the timing data in the G format…subtract it, and then convert to date/time by using to string function.
Han
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Simplicity itself, to a point. One equals one second, so 1000ms. = 1. 60 seconds = 1 minute. 60 minutes = 1 hour. Check: hmsToSec(1, 0, 0) = 3600, 60
* 60 = 3600. Continue for days and weeks (24 hours a day, 7 days a week).
When you get to months and years, now you've got a problem. What month? What year? What month *in* what year? If you want to skip months and just say there are 365.25 days a year, that's usually close enough but the number of days in a year is changing all the time. Come to that, the number of hours in a day is lengthens at a faster rate than number of days in a year changes. In order to calculate these quantities exactly you need precise orbital data (of the Earth-Moon system for year, of the Moon for day).
You've touched upon one of the greatest astronomical problems of all time, and mankind has spent most of its civilized existence (and much of its pre-civilized existence) simply trying to answer these questions. The Julian calendar added one day to February every four years, but that started throwing the calendar out of whack with reality. Some of the greatest minds in history have worked on the problem to no avail. Royal and Papal councils (specifically those of Nicaea and Trent in 325 & 1563 respectively) made suggestions.
The most "shocking" change was made by Pope Gregory XIII (at the recommendation of the Council of Trent), who decreed that Thursday, October 4th, 1582 would be followed by Friday, October 15, 1582. This marked the beginning of the Gregorian calendar as we know it today. And we're still not done. NIST is constantly inserting "leap seconds" in the year to keep the calendar in step with the seasons. And there's really no end in sight.
The only events that we can be absolutely sure of are the solstices & equinoxes. The period of these events change at different rates depending on the relative positions of the major gravitating bodies in the Sol's grip.
The length of the day depends on how fast the Earth rotates and that rate slows as the Moon drifts away. The measurement of time is somewhat relative on all fronts. But at least not for the same reason that Einstein discovered! One is hard put to it to decide which is the more... distressing
;-)
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