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Â >Â Â Â ...Â , on the other hand if he had to send it to a customer he would do it in LabView.Â Â
> Â His reason is that LV has a dump on CD, Â one click install runtime-program, and walk away.Â
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On the other hand, in LV any time you make a sub-vi (like a Userfunction or userObject in VEE),
it gets created in a separate file.Â So even a small program may consist of several files (in addition
to LV runtime).Â In order to keep track of everything an install package is needed.Â VEE keeps
everything in one file (until you start doing more complicated things).
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~~Les HammerÂ

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PVittorini Jun 15, 2006 5:38 PM
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shaun.harwood Jun 15, 2006 6:20 PM
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=US-ASCII"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2876" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=893185412-16062006>I agree with this - LV Application builder makes the business of sending out a usable app trouble free - in the past I have tried functions (built and debugged) using VEE in order to test some logic/program flow rapidly but then built the user version of the same thing is C or VB. I guess were back to the 'programming languages are different tools' thing. VEE 8 maybe??</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=893185412-16062006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=893185412-16062006>Shaun</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><BR></DIV><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><HR tabIndex=-1><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Pat Vittorini [mailto:PVittorini@tenxc.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 16, 2006 8:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> VRF<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf] Can of worms<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Tahoma>I was speaking to a colleague yesterday about programming. Concerning test automation, he said if he wanted to do testing quickly in a real world condition he would do it in VEE, on the other hand if he had to send it to a customer he would do it in LabView. His reason is that LV has a dump on CD, one click install runtime-program, and walk away.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Tahoma>I have asked for this feature as a product enhancement for VEE a long time ago. Has anything been done?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=248142912-16062006></SPAN> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV align=left><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=682444115-17102005></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=682444115-17102005></SPAN>Pat Vittorini</FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lab Manager</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>TenXC Wireless</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Wingdings size=2>(<FONT face="Courier New"></FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>613-591-6696 Ext 244</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Wingdings size=2>:<FONT face="Courier New"></FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>PVittorini@tenxc.com</FONT></SPAN> </DIV></DIV><DIV> </DIV><BR>--- <BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: shaun.harwood@siemens.com <BR>To subscribe please send an email to: "vrf-request@lists.it.agilent.com" with the word subscribe in the message body. <BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". <BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to <BR>"owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". <BR>Search the "unofficial vrf archive" at "www.oswegosw.com/vrf_archive/". <BR>---<BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: rsb@soco.agilent.com<BR>To subscribe please send an email to: "vrf-request@lists.it.agilent.com" with the word subscribe in the message body.<BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to<BR>"owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>Search the "unofficial vrf archive" at "www.oswegosw.com/vrf_archive/".</BODY></HTML>
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PVittorini Jun 15, 2006 7:19 PM
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=179121614-16062006><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff>How hard can it be to set up a windows app that installs Vee runtime then loads and runs an attached Vee (VXE) program? Then again I thought we would have colonies on the moon by now. Get with the program.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><FONT face="Comic Sans MS" color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV><DIV align=left><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=682444115-17102005></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=682444115-17102005></SPAN>Pat Vittorini</FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lab Manager</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>TenXC Wireless</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Wingdings size=2>(<FONT face="Courier New"></FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>613-591-6696 Ext 244</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Wingdings size=2>:<FONT face="Courier New"></FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>PVittorini@tenxc.com</FONT></SPAN> </DIV></DIV><DIV> </DIV><BR><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><HR tabIndex=-1><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Harwood, Shaun [mailto:shaun.harwood@siemens.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 16, 2006 9:21 AM<BR><B>To:</B> VRF<BR><B>Subject:</B> RE: [vrf] Can of worms<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=893185412-16062006>I agree with this - LV Application builder makes the business of sending out a usable app trouble free - in the past I have tried functions (built and debugged) using VEE in order to test some logic/program flow rapidly but then built the user version of the same thing is C or VB. I guess were back to the 'programming languages are different tools' thing. VEE 8 maybe??</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=893185412-16062006></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=893185412-16062006>Shaun</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><BR></DIV><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader lang=en-us dir=ltr align=left><HR tabIndex=-1><FONT face=Tahoma size=2><B>From:</B> Pat Vittorini [mailto:PVittorini@tenxc.com] <BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, June 16, 2006 8:38 AM<BR><B>To:</B> VRF<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf] Can of worms<BR></FONT><BR></DIV><DIV></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Tahoma>I was speaking to a colleague yesterday about programming. Concerning test automation, he said if he wanted to do testing quickly in a real world condition he would do it in VEE, on the other hand if he had to send it to a customer he would do it in LabView. His reason is that LV has a dump on CD, one click install runtime-program, and walk away.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Tahoma>I have asked for this feature as a product enhancement for VEE a long time ago. Has anything been done?</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=248142912-16062006></SPAN> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV align=left><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=682444115-17102005></SPAN></FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN><FONT color=#0000ff><STRONG><FONT face=Arial><SPAN class=682444115-17102005></SPAN>Pat Vittorini</FONT></STRONG></FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>Lab Manager</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Arial size=2>TenXC Wireless</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Wingdings size=2>(<FONT face="Courier New"></FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>613-591-6696 Ext 244</FONT></SPAN> <BR><SPAN lang=en-us><FONT face=Wingdings size=2>:<FONT face="Courier New"></FONT></FONT> <FONT face=Arial size=2>PVittorini@tenxc.com</FONT></SPAN> </DIV></DIV><DIV> </DIV><BR>--- <BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: shaun.harwood@siemens.com <BR>To subscribe please send an email to: "vrf-request@lists.it.agilent.com" with the word subscribe in the message body. <BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". <BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to <BR>"owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". <BR>Search the "unofficial vrf archive" at "www.oswegosw.com/vrf_archive/". <BR>--- <BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: PVittorini@tenxc.com <BR>To subscribe please send an email to: "vrf-request@lists.it.agilent.com" with the word subscribe in the message body. <BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". <BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to <BR>"owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". <BR>Search the "unofficial vrf archive" at "www.oswegosw.com/vrf_archive/". <BR>---<BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: rsb@soco.agilent.com<BR>To subscribe please send an email to: "vrf-request@lists.it.agilent.com" with the word subscribe in the message body.<BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to<BR>"owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>Search the "unofficial vrf archive" at "www.oswegosw.com/vrf_archive/".</BODY></HTML>
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VRFuser Jun 15, 2006 8:04 PM
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<!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN"><html><head> <meta content="text/html;charset=ISO-8859-1" http-equiv="Content-Type"></head><body bgcolor="#ffffff" text="#000000">I once wanted to do something similar, but did not finish it. I used onof the free installer programs on the web and wanted to create onsingle program ( a big exe file) to install VEE runtime (with silentoption), MySQL, folders with vxe and other needed files and shortcutson desktop and program menu. Did not finish it because of time, but Ithink it can be done. The installer I tried was Inno Setup(<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php">http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php</a>).

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Pat Vittorini wrote:<blockquote cite="midLYRIS-433170-4369959-2006.06.16-08.19.16--nmambre%23seebeck.com.ve@it.lists.it.agilent.com" type="cite"> <meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; "> <meta content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name="GENERATOR"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span class="179121614-16062006"><font color="#0000ff" face="Comic Sans MS">How hard can it be to set up awindows app that installs Vee runtime then loads and runs an attachedVee (VXE) program? Then again I thought we would have colonies on themoon by now. Get with the program.</font></span></div> <div> </div> <div align="left"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff"><strong><font face="Arial"><span class="682444115-17102005"></span></font></strong></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff"><strong><font face="Arial"><span class="682444115-17102005"></span>Pat Vittorini</font></strong></font></span>
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<div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"> <hr tabindex="-1"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> Harwood,Shaun [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:shaun.harwood@siemens.com">mailto:shaun.harwood@siemens.com</a>]
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</div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="893185412-16062006">I agree with this - LVApplication builder makes the business of sending out a usable apptrouble free - in the past I have tried functions (built and debugged)using VEE in order to test some logic/program flow rapidly but thenbuilt the user version of the same thing is C or VB. I guess were backto the 'programming languages are different tools' thing. VEE 8 maybe??</span></font></div> <div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="893185412-16062006"></span></font> </div> <div><font color="#0000ff" face="Arial" size="2"><span class="893185412-16062006">Shaun</span></font></div> <div dir="ltr" align="left">
</div> <div class="OutlookMessageHeader" dir="ltr" align="left" lang="en-us"> <hr tabindex="-1"><font face="Tahoma" size="2"><b>From:</b> PatVittorini [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:PVittorini@tenxc.com">mailto:PVittorini@tenxc.com</a>]
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, June 16, 2006 8:38 AM
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</div> <div><span class="248142912-16062006"><font face="Tahoma">I wasspeaking to a colleague yesterday about programming. Concerning testautomation, he said if he wanted to do testing quickly in a real worldcondition he would do it in VEE, on the other hand if he had to send itto a customer he would do it in LabView. His reason is that LV has adump on CD, one click install runtime-program, and walk away.</font></span></div> <div><span class="248142912-16062006"><font face="Tahoma">I haveasked for this feature as a product enhancement for VEE a long timeago. Has anything been done?</font></span></div> <div><span class="248142912-16062006"></span> </div> <div> </div> <div align="left"> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff"><strong><font face="Arial"><span class="682444115-17102005"></span></font></strong></font></span> </div> <div dir="ltr" align="left"><span><font color="#0000ff"><strong><font face="Arial"><span class="682444115-17102005"></span>Pat Vittorini</font></strong></font></span>
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VRFuser Jun 15, 2006 9:06 PM
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VRFuser Jun 16, 2006 5:38 AM
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I was speaking to a colleague yesterday about programming. Concerning test automation, he said if he wanted to do testing quickly in a real world conditionÂ he would do it in VEE, on the other hand if he had to send it to a customer he would do it in LabView. His reason is that LV has a dump on CD, Â one click install runtime-program, and walk away.
I have asked for this feature as a product enhancement for VEE a long time ago. Has anything been done?
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I agree with this - LV Application builder makes the business of sending out a usable app trouble free - in the past I have tried functions (built and debugged) using VEE in order to test some logic/program flow rapidly but then built the user version of the same thing is C or VB.Â I guess were back to theÂ 'programming languages areÂ different tools'Â thing.Â VEE 8 maybe??
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I was speaking to a colleague yesterday about programming. Concerning test automation, he said if he wanted to do testing quickly in a real world conditionÂ he would do it in VEE, on the other hand if he had to send it to a customer he would do it in LabView. His reason is that LV has a dump on CD, Â one click install runtime-program, and walk away.
I have asked for this feature as a product enhancement for VEE a long time ago. Has anything been done?
Â
Â
Â
Pat Vittorini
Lab Manager
TenXC Wireless
( 613-591-6696 Ext 244
: PVittorini@tenxc.com
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VRFuser Jun 16, 2006 7:19 AM
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How hard can it be to set up a windows app that installs Vee runtime then loads and runs an attached Vee (VXE) program? Then again I thought we would have colonies on the moon by now. Get with the program.
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I agree with this - LV Application builder makes the business of sending out a usable app trouble free - in the past I have tried functions (built and debugged) using VEE in order to test some logic/program flow rapidly but then built the user version of the same thing is C or VB.Â I guess were back to theÂ 'programming languages areÂ different tools'Â thing.Â VEE 8 maybe??
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Shaun

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From: Pat Vittorini [mailto:PVittorini@tenxc.com]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:38 AM
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I was speaking to a colleague yesterday about programming. Concerning test automation, he said if he wanted to do testing quickly in a real world conditionÂ he would do it in VEE, on the other hand if he had to send it to a customer he would do it in LabView. His reason is that LV has a dump on CD, Â one click install runtime-program, and walk away.
I have asked for this feature as a product enhancement for VEE a long time ago. Has anything been done?
Â
Â
Â
Pat Vittorini
Lab Manager
TenXC Wireless
( 613-591-6696 Ext 244
: PVittorini@tenxc.com
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VRFuser Jun 16, 2006 8:03 AM
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I once wanted to do something similar, but did not finish it. I used on of the free installer programs on the web and wanted to create on single program ( a big exe file) to install VEE runtime (with silent option), MySQL, folders with vxe and other needed files and shortcuts on desktop and program menu. Did not finish it because of time, but I think it can be done. The installer I tried was Inno Setup (http://www.jrsoftware.org/isinfo.php).

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How hard can it be to set up a windows app that installs Vee runtime then loads and runs an attached Vee (VXE) program? Then again I thought we would have colonies on the moon by now. Get with the program.
Â
Â
Pat Vittorini
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From: Harwood, Shaun [mailto:shaun.harwood@siemens.com]
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I agree with this - LV Application builder makes the business of sending out a usable app trouble free - in the past I have tried functions (built and debugged) using VEE in order to test some logic/program flow rapidly but then built the user version of the same thing is C or VB.Â I guess were back to theÂ 'programming languages areÂ different tools'Â thing.Â VEE 8 maybe??
Â
Shaun

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From: Pat Vittorini [mailto:PVittorini@tenxc.com]
Sent: Friday, June 16, 2006 8:38 AM
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I was speaking to a colleague yesterday about programming. Concerning test automation, he said if he wanted to do testing quickly in a real world conditionÂ he would do it in VEE, on the other hand if he had to send it to a customer he would do it in LabView. His reason is that LV has a dump on CD, Â one click install runtime-program, and walk away.
I have asked for this feature as a product enhancement for VEE a long time ago. Has anything been done?
Â
Â
Â
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TenXC Wireless
( 613-591-6696 Ext 244
: HYPERLINK "mailto:PVittorini@tenxc.com"PVittorini@tenxc.com
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006> > </SPAN><SPAN class=037142101-18062006> ... </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>, on the other hand if he had to send it to a customer he would do it in LabView. <SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> </FONT> </SPAN>His reason is that LV has a dump on CD, one click install runtime-program, and walk away.</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>On the other hand, in LV any time you make a sub-vi (like a Userfunction or userObject in VEE),</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>it gets created in a separate file. So even a small program may consist of several files (in addition</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>to LV runtime). In order to keep track of everything an install package is needed. VEE keeps</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>everything in one file (until you start doing more complicated things).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>~~Les Hammer</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>---<BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: rsb@soco.agilent.com<BR>To subscribe please send an email to: "vrf-request@lists.it.agilent.com" with the word subscribe in the message body.<BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to<BR>"owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>Search the "unofficial vrf archive" at "www.oswegosw.com/vrf_archive/".</BODY></HTML>
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META http-equiv=Content-Type content="text/html; charset=us-ascii"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2900.2873" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Tahoma><FONT face=Arial><FONT color=#0000ff><FONT size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006> > </SPAN><SPAN class=037142101-18062006> ... </SPAN></FONT></FONT></FONT>, on the other hand if he had to send it to a customer he would do it in LabView. <SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2> </FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Tahoma><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>> </FONT> </SPAN>His reason is that LV has a dump on CD, one click install runtime-program, and walk away.</FONT><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>On the other hand, in LV any time you make a sub-vi (like a Userfunction or userObject in VEE),</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>it gets created in a separate file. So even a small program may consist of several files (in addition</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>to LV runtime). In order to keep track of everything an install package is needed. VEE keeps</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>everything in one file (until you start doing more complicated things).</FONT></SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006></SPAN></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV dir=ltr align=left><SPAN class=248142912-16062006><FONT color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=037142101-18062006><FONT color=#000000 size=3>~~Les Hammer</FONT> </SPAN></FONT></SPAN></DIV><BR>---<BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: rsb@soco.agilent.com<BR>To subscribe please send an email to: "vrf-request@lists.it.agilent.com" with the word subscribe in the message body.<BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to<BR>"owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>Search the "unofficial vrf archive" at "www.oswegosw.com/vrf_archive/".</BODY></HTML>
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