Dear all,
thank you for your suggestions.
Definitively I will not use XP!
What I need is a mechanisme inside VEE.
Unfortunately the manual is not very precise with respect to LAN
functionality.
I will now start to evaluate the various proposals.
Sincerely
Hans-Joachim
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Von: REED,KIRK (A-LittleFalls,ex1) [mailto:kirk_reed@agilent.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2003 19:09
An: VRF
Betreff: [vrf] RE: VEE via LAN (more on Remote Desktop)
Richard touched on the Remote Desktop. This is the way to go. Mike thought
both computers needed to be Windows XP. Not so, Microsoft has released the
programs to have any windows 95 and later pc control a Windows XP Pro.
Windows Home is only capable of Remote Assistance, where Pro goes one step
further to with Remote Desktop. It used to be only available for Windows
servers, and then XP Pro added the capability.
We use all our pcs to control XP Pro machines. I use it even to control
work pcs in China, California, or just at work. It is as if you were
sitting in front of the computer. If Hans's computer in the RF chamber is
XP Pro, he just needs to "allow" remote control of the pc through Remote
Desktop. Enable this by going to System Properties, and on the Remote tab
enabling it.
See the Microsoft website that describes it in detail, and gives links for
the client side software to access the Windows XP Pro machine (host).
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gomobile/remotedesktop/de
fault.asp
I use RealVNC, Remote Desktop, and Remote Assistance. I only use RealVNC
when controlling a NON XP machine. Remote Assistance allows two people to
share the same pc, Remote Desktop locks the screen on the host.
One nice thing is it resizes the host computer screen info to the client's
resolution, so unlike VNC, you are not moving the scroll bars all around to
view all the host's info. It even redirects your printer info to the
client's printer. Not sure about Vee though, since you can setup printer
info in preferences. I don't use printers much with Vee remotely.
Hans, this will solve your problems real fast, IF your RF chamber machine is
XP Pro. This is one nice freebie Microsoft has given us, and it works
GREAT!
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Groves [mailto:mikegroves@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:25 AM
To: VRF
Subject: [vrf] RE: VEE via LAN
You didn't mention what platform the VEE programs were running on, but
I would think the absolute easiest way to do this, without touching your
VEE code, would be to use one of the many remote control programs that
are available. Here are my suggestions...
1) If all of the machines are running Windows XP, you can use the "Remote
Desktop Connection" built into XP to get one PC to control another.
2) If all the PC's involved are running Windows, it doesn't get much easier
than using pcAnywhere from Symantec. Version 11 is outstanding. It will cost
a little bit, but I've used this for years to control VEE machines remotely
and it does an excellent job.
http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=2
3) If these are not all Windows machines, or you would like to get by very
inexpensively, then you can go with RealVNC. (www.realvnc.com/winvnc.html)
I used it years ago. It has the advantage of remote controlling dissimilar
machines and best of all, it's free!
My suggestion is to leave your VEE code as is and install one of these.
Cheers!
Mike Groves
-----Original Message-----
From: VEE user at ESF GmbH [mailto:vee@esf-gmbh.de]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:05 AM
To: VRF
Subject: [vrf] VEE via LAN
Dear all,
a big VEE program is in operation since a couple of months. It runs quite
stable locally in a RF chamber. Now I need to control the instruments
remotely via a LAN. I tried to understand the LAN functionality of VEE
reading the manual. This did not really help me in short time.
Is there a "simple" possibility to implement remote control of the
instruments via LAN without touching major parts of the existing VEE
program. I would like to have just a switch that tells to the computer in
the RF chamber "take all commands from remote computer at x.x.x.x". The
remote computer should be advised "send all commands to remote computer
y.y.y.y where the GPIB instruments are connected"
Is this just a dream or is this possible? Are there guidelines how to
achieve it available?
Actually in the final end the remote control has to be via internet.
Sincerely
Hans-Joachim Fischer
------------------------------------------
ESF GmbH
Brennerweg 7
D-89143 Blaubeuren
+49-7344-919693
+49-7344-919691 (fax)
+49-175-40 74 5 74 (GSM)
http://www.esf-gmbh.de
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thank you for your suggestions.
Definitively I will not use XP!
What I need is a mechanisme inside VEE.
Unfortunately the manual is not very precise with respect to LAN
functionality.
I will now start to evaluate the various proposals.
Sincerely
Hans-Joachim
-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: REED,KIRK (A-LittleFalls,ex1) [mailto:kirk_reed@agilent.com]
Gesendet: Dienstag, 25. November 2003 19:09
An: VRF
Betreff: [vrf] RE: VEE via LAN (more on Remote Desktop)
Richard touched on the Remote Desktop. This is the way to go. Mike thought
both computers needed to be Windows XP. Not so, Microsoft has released the
programs to have any windows 95 and later pc control a Windows XP Pro.
Windows Home is only capable of Remote Assistance, where Pro goes one step
further to with Remote Desktop. It used to be only available for Windows
servers, and then XP Pro added the capability.
We use all our pcs to control XP Pro machines. I use it even to control
work pcs in China, California, or just at work. It is as if you were
sitting in front of the computer. If Hans's computer in the RF chamber is
XP Pro, he just needs to "allow" remote control of the pc through Remote
Desktop. Enable this by going to System Properties, and on the Remote tab
enabling it.
See the Microsoft website that describes it in detail, and gives links for
the client side software to access the Windows XP Pro machine (host).
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsxp/pro/using/howto/gomobile/remotedesktop/de
fault.asp
I use RealVNC, Remote Desktop, and Remote Assistance. I only use RealVNC
when controlling a NON XP machine. Remote Assistance allows two people to
share the same pc, Remote Desktop locks the screen on the host.
One nice thing is it resizes the host computer screen info to the client's
resolution, so unlike VNC, you are not moving the scroll bars all around to
view all the host's info. It even redirects your printer info to the
client's printer. Not sure about Vee though, since you can setup printer
info in preferences. I don't use printers much with Vee remotely.
Hans, this will solve your problems real fast, IF your RF chamber machine is
XP Pro. This is one nice freebie Microsoft has given us, and it works
GREAT!
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Groves [mailto:mikegroves@pacbell.net]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 6:25 AM
To: VRF
Subject: [vrf] RE: VEE via LAN
You didn't mention what platform the VEE programs were running on, but
I would think the absolute easiest way to do this, without touching your
VEE code, would be to use one of the many remote control programs that
are available. Here are my suggestions...
1) If all of the machines are running Windows XP, you can use the "Remote
Desktop Connection" built into XP to get one PC to control another.
2) If all the PC's involved are running Windows, it doesn't get much easier
than using pcAnywhere from Symantec. Version 11 is outstanding. It will cost
a little bit, but I've used this for years to control VEE machines remotely
and it does an excellent job.
http://enterprisesecurity.symantec.com/products/products.cfm?ProductID=2
3) If these are not all Windows machines, or you would like to get by very
inexpensively, then you can go with RealVNC. (www.realvnc.com/winvnc.html)
I used it years ago. It has the advantage of remote controlling dissimilar
machines and best of all, it's free!
My suggestion is to leave your VEE code as is and install one of these.
Cheers!
Mike Groves
-----Original Message-----
From: VEE user at ESF GmbH [mailto:vee@esf-gmbh.de]
Sent: Tuesday, November 25, 2003 2:05 AM
To: VRF
Subject: [vrf] VEE via LAN
Dear all,
a big VEE program is in operation since a couple of months. It runs quite
stable locally in a RF chamber. Now I need to control the instruments
remotely via a LAN. I tried to understand the LAN functionality of VEE
reading the manual. This did not really help me in short time.
Is there a "simple" possibility to implement remote control of the
instruments via LAN without touching major parts of the existing VEE
program. I would like to have just a switch that tells to the computer in
the RF chamber "take all commands from remote computer at x.x.x.x". The
remote computer should be advised "send all commands to remote computer
y.y.y.y where the GPIB instruments are connected"
Is this just a dream or is this possible? Are there guidelines how to
achieve it available?
Actually in the final end the remote control has to be via internet.
Sincerely
Hans-Joachim Fischer
------------------------------------------
ESF GmbH
Brennerweg 7
D-89143 Blaubeuren
+49-7344-919693
+49-7344-919691 (fax)
+49-175-40 74 5 74 (GSM)
http://www.esf-gmbh.de
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I graded up from VEE 6.01 to VEE 6.2 and found the following new effect.
Assume a folder with a file "testfile1.vee".
Double clicking on "testfile1.vee" starts VEE and loads this file, however
in the blue bar on top of the window, you can read the file name
"testfi~1.vee". This well-known 16-bit feature is not very nice, as
subsequent saving of the program will actually generate a file with name
"testfi~1.vee".
Starting VEE and then opening a file from the file menu does not show this
mistake.
Is there a patch available?
When will VEE 7 be available - which is for free for those who have VEE6.2?
Kind regards
Hans-Joachim Fischer
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Brennerweg 7
D-89143 Blaubeuren
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