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Question asked by VRFuser on Oct 30, 2003
Latest reply on Oct 31, 2003 by gurday

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> "1. The ability to make windows type file menus. ActiveX get close but not
> the same. (My ActiveX menu example that is floating around.)"

It's possible to do exactly what Windows does of course, and you can grab
VEE's menu and change it in whatever way you wish, or make an
honest-to-goodness Windows menu for your vxe and use it like a real menu.
The problem is Windows programming in VEE. It's not impossible (witness the
PrintScreen example) but it can be pretty difficult.

The biggest obstacle is the subclassing (necessary to respond to menu
clicks). It's pretty simple to subclass VEE, but it has to be done from a
dll and in order to implement command handlers in VEE, VEE has to respond to
the message reception event, though the dll can implement a simple filter to
pass messages that your VEE command handlers don't need to see on so as not
to flood VEE with work.

I thought I had a neat solution using a Visual Basic Automation library that
subclasses VEE and passes events up to VEE via an ActiveX event, but when I
tried to implement it I found I didn't know enough about Visual Basic to get
it done, and I don't want to wade through IConnectionPoint and all that
stuff in C++. Someday I'll get back to this, but for now I have too much
else to do.
-SHAWN-

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mark.goldberg Oct 30, 2003 5:10 PM
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Sorry Jeff,

>From my earlier post

"1. The ability to make windows type file menus. ActiveX get close but not
the same. (My ActiveX menu example that is floating around.)"

That is one of the things this ActiveX control lacks. There may be a way,
but I have not found it. Also it requires the use of the drop down arrows
instead of the lone button like a real windows menu.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Davis, Jeff [mailto:jeff.davis@cdi-es.com]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Goldberg, Mark
Subject: RE: [vrf] FW: RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7

This is pretty cool. What about submenus ?

Jeff Davis
Lead Software Test Engineer
CDI Engineering Solutions Aerospace Technologies
Embedded Systems and Electronics
3137 E Elwood # 160
Phoenix, Arizona 85034
Phone: (602)431-4497 (x226)
Cell: (480)330-1431
Fax: (602)431-4435

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Goldberg, Mark [mailto:Mark.Goldberg@ATK.COM]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 08:51 AM
> To: VEE vrf
> Subject: [vrf] FW: RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7
>
>
> oops. forgot to cc VRF.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Goldberg, Mark
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:49 AM
> To: 'KHorten@flowserve.com'
> Subject: RE: [vrf] RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7
>
>
> Here is a modified version I have for where I work now.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KHorten@flowserve.com [mailto:KHorten@flowserve.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:41 AM
> To: Goldberg, Mark
> Subject: Re: [vrf] RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7
>
>
>
> Where would I find this ActiveX menu example metioned in M. Goldberg's
> reply ?
>
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mark.goldberg Oct 30, 2003 5:10 PM
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Sorry Jeff,

>From my earlier post

"1. The ability to make windows type file menus. ActiveX get close but not
the same. (My ActiveX menu example that is floating around.)"

That is one of the things this ActiveX control lacks. There may be a way,
but I have not found it. Also it requires the use of the drop down arrows
instead of the lone button like a real windows menu.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: Davis, Jeff [mailto:jeff.davis@cdi-es.com]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:54 AM
To: Goldberg, Mark
Subject: RE: [vrf] FW: RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7

This is pretty cool. What about submenus ?

Jeff Davis
Lead Software Test Engineer
CDI Engineering Solutions Aerospace Technologies
Embedded Systems and Electronics
3137 E Elwood # 160
Phoenix, Arizona 85034
Phone: (602)431-4497 (x226)
Cell: (480)330-1431
Fax: (602)431-4435

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Goldberg, Mark [mailto:Mark.Goldberg@ATK.COM]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 08:51 AM
> To: VEE vrf
> Subject: [vrf] FW: RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7
>
>
> oops. forgot to cc VRF.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Goldberg, Mark
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:49 AM
> To: 'KHorten@flowserve.com'
> Subject: RE: [vrf] RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7
>
>
> Here is a modified version I have for where I work now.
>
> Mark
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: KHorten@flowserve.com [mailto:KHorten@flowserve.com]
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:41 AM
> To: Goldberg, Mark
> Subject: Re: [vrf] RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7
>
>
>
> Where would I find this ActiveX menu example metioned in M. Goldberg's
> reply ?
>
>
>
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mark.goldberg Oct 30, 2003 5:51 PM
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oops. forgot to cc VRF.

-----Original Message-----
From: Goldberg, Mark
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:49 AM
To: 'KHorten@flowserve.com'
Subject: RE: [vrf] RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7

Here is a modified version I have for where I work now.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: KHorten@flowserve.com [mailto:KHorten@flowserve.com]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:41 AM
To: Goldberg, Mark
Subject: Re: [vrf] RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7

Where would I find this ActiveX menu example metioned in M. Goldberg's
reply ?

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mark.goldberg Oct 30, 2003 5:51 PM
Mark Correct
Correct Answer
oops. forgot to cc VRF.

-----Original Message-----
From: Goldberg, Mark
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:49 AM
To: 'KHorten@flowserve.com'
Subject: RE: [vrf] RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7

Here is a modified version I have for where I work now.

Mark

-----Original Message-----
From: KHorten@flowserve.com [mailto:KHorten@flowserve.com]
Sent: Friday, October 31, 2003 7:41 AM
To: Goldberg, Mark
Subject: Re: [vrf] RE: Fw: Agilent Vee Pro 7

Where would I find this ActiveX menu example metioned in M. Goldberg's
reply ?

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VRFuser Oct 30, 2003 9:31 PM
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> "1. The ability to make windows type file menus. ActiveX get close but not
> the same. (My ActiveX menu example that is floating around.)"

It's possible to do exactly what Windows does of course, and you can grab
VEE's menu and change it in whatever way you wish, or make an
honest-to-goodness Windows menu for your vxe and use it like a real menu.
The problem is Windows programming in VEE. It's not impossible (witness the
PrintScreen example) but it can be pretty difficult.

The biggest obstacle is the subclassing (necessary to respond to menu
clicks). It's pretty simple to subclass VEE, but it has to be done from a
dll and in order to implement command handlers in VEE, VEE has to respond to
the message reception event, though the dll can implement a simple filter to
pass messages that your VEE command handlers don't need to see on so as not
to flood VEE with work.

I thought I had a neat solution using a Visual Basic Automation library that
subclasses VEE and passes events up to VEE via an ActiveX event, but when I
tried to implement it I found I didn't know enough about Visual Basic to get
it done, and I don't want to wade through IConnectionPoint and all that
stuff in C++. Someday I'll get back to this, but for now I have too much
else to do.
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VRFuser Oct 30, 2003 11:36 PM
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> How can you make real Windows menu objects? See the attached
> .gif for an example of what I am talking about.

Gotcha - yup. Real Windows menus with all the bells & whistles. You do it
the same way we used to do it back in the old days before C++ menu
obfuscations became popular: CreateMenu to create the menu, then
AppendMenu/InsertMenu/InsertMenuItem to populate the menu, then SetMenu to
attach it to a window, draw it and activate it. Dropdown menus, pop-up
menus, sub-menus, bitmaps, checkmarks - the whole enchilada. There are a
whole slew of menu functions in user32 that operate on and with menus.

Use GetMenu to get VEE's menu, then use other menu functions to add your own
items or change it in any way you wish. Add a menu to a vxe with the above
method or CreatePopupMenu for floating "right-click" menus.

That's the easy part. The hard part is responding to menu selections. First
of all, you must subclass VEE's main window with pfnOldWndProc =
SetWindowLong(hWndVee, GWL_WNDPROC, pfnWndProc). pfnWndProc is an (int)
pointer to a WindowProc callback function that has to be in a dll. It's
declaration is:

LRESULT CALLBACK WindowProc(HWND hWnd, UINT uMsg, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM
lParam);

After the SetWindowLong call, Windows will call pfnWndProc to process window
messages instead of calling VEE's WindowProc. This is called subclassing a
window because you're taking a predefined window class (in this case defined
by VEE) and replacing it's behavioral characteristics with your own.

In most cases, inside this WindowProc function you will pass window messages
along to VEE's original WindowProc with:

return CallWindowProc(pfnOldWndProc, hWnd, uMsg, wParam, lParam);

However, WM_COMMAND messages that originate from your new menu items will
have to be processed by you. This is the interesting part. You can implement
the command behavior in your subclassing dll, but the goal here is to alert
VEE that it needs to process a window message that originated from one of
your custom menu items.

I thought the easiest way to do that would be to fire an ActiveX event back
to VEE through an Automation library. The parameters of the event are hWnd,
uMsg, wParam and lParam. The problem is that the new WindowProc must be able
to fire the event, and to do that it needs to hold an instance of the
Automation library, but it won't be the same instance that VEE holds and VEE
will never get the event, and you can't pass objects... or wait. Can you?

SURE YOU CAN! Holy ****, I just figured it out. IDispatch to the rescue. A
Variant can contain an IUnknown, and even VEE 5 can implicitly deal with
that so the subclassing class instance *can* be passed to the subclassing
function by VEE - over the IDispatch interface! If I can figure out how to
handle the circular reference after coercing it to ISubCls in VB then it
will work - or maybe VB is just smart enough to know the interface and the
instance are two different things.

Please be patient. I may be able to do this after all, but I have to do a
couple of other things first and I'm already running late today.
-SHAWN-

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VRFuser Oct 30, 2003 11:45 PM
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> How can you make real Windows menu objects? See the attached
> .gif for an example of what I am talking about.

Gotcha - yup. Real Windows menus with all the bells & whistles. You do it
the same way we used to do it back in the old days before C++ menu
obfuscations became popular: CreateMenu to create the menu, then
AppendMenu/InsertMenu/InsertMenuItem to populate the menu, then SetMenu to
attach it to a window, draw it and activate it. Dropdown menus, pop-up
menus, sub-menus, bitmaps, checkmarks - the whole enchilada. There are a
whole slew of menu functions in user32 that operate on and with menus.

Use GetMenu to get VEE's menu, then use other menu functions to add your own
items or change it in any way you wish. Add a menu to a vxe with the above
method or CreatePopupMenu for floating "right-click" menus.

That's the easy part. The hard part is responding to menu selections. First
of all, you must subclass VEE's main window with pfnOldWndProc =
SetWindowLong(hWndVee, GWL_WNDPROC, pfnWndProc). pfnWndProc is an (int)
pointer to a WindowProc callback function that has to be in a dll. It's
declaration is:

LRESULT CALLBACK WindowProc(HWND hWnd, UINT uMsg, WPARAM wParam, LPARAM
lParam);

After the SetWindowLong call, Windows will call pfnWndProc to process window
messages instead of calling VEE's WindowProc. This is called subclassing a
window because you're taking a predefined window class (in this case defined
by VEE) and replacing it's behavioral characteristics with your own.

In most cases, inside this WindowProc function you will pass window messages
along to VEE's original WindowProc with:

return CallWindowProc(pfnOldWndProc, hWnd, uMsg, wParam, lParam);

However, WM_COMMAND messages that originate from your new menu items will
have to be processed by you. This is the interesting part. You can implement
the command behavior in your subclassing dll, but the goal here is to alert
VEE that it needs to process a window message that originated from one of
your custom menu items.

I thought the easiest way to do that would be to fire an ActiveX event back
to VEE through an Automation library. The parameters of the event are hWnd,
uMsg, wParam and lParam. The problem is that the new WindowProc must be able
to fire the event, and to do that it needs to hold an instance of the
Automation library, but it won't be the same instance that VEE holds and VEE
will never get the event, and you can't pass objects... or wait. Can you?

SURE YOU CAN! Holy ****, I just figured it out. IDispatch to the rescue. A
Variant can contain an IUnknown, and even VEE 5 can implicitly deal with
that so the subclassing class instance *can* be passed to the subclassing
function by VEE - over the IDispatch interface! If I can figure out how to
handle the circular reference after coercing it to ISubCls in VB then it
will work - or maybe VB is just smart enough to know the interface and the
instance are two different things.

Please be patient. I may be able to do this after all, but I have to do a
couple of other things first and I'm already running late today.
-SHAWN-

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