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vrf VeeRun 6.0 web download

Question asked by VRFuser on Jan 26, 2004
<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR><STYLE></STYLE></HEAD><BODY bgColor=#ffffff><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004>Hi Mike and the vrf,</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004>Until your posting, I don't think any of us realized that requiring ADN registration in order to get a copy of the runtime was a big impediment. Our goal was to get users at least to see the ADN while getting the bits. But your point is well taken: many (most?) of your end-users have no interest at all in the ADN, and may not even know they're using VEE, so making them go through registration is pointless.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004>I'm investigating with our web folks the possibility of a runtime download page that doesn't require ADN registration to get at the various runtime versions we would make available. You could give your end-users either the link to the page or the direct link to a specific version of the runtime download. It would be a one-click download.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004>Does this sound right?</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004>I can't guarantee this will happen, but there seems to be an agreement around here that it's worth trying to do. I'm working on it now.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004>As for the <A href="ftp://ftp.agilent.com">ftp.agilent.com</A> site: when the employee who established and maintained that site left about a year ago, it turned into a serious maintenance problem for us. We just don't have the manpower to maintain it in addition to the ADN, and there's always pressure to shut it down in the name of efficiency.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004>The site will ultimately go away, can't be helped. We're trying to migrate the "current" content from it to ADN where that's easy, and archiving non-current content where we can get at it at need. </SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=180593817-27012004>Sorry, but that's the way of the web. A large percentage of links change or disappear every year when web hosters restructure their systems to be cheaper and easier to maintain.</SPAN></FONT></DIV><DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT> </DIV><DIV><SPAN class=180593817-27012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Best Regards,</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=180593817-27012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV><SPAN class=180593817-27012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><P><FONT size=2>Scott Bayes<BR>Software Technical Support<BR><BR>Agilent Technologies, Inc.<BR>815 14th Street S.W.<BR>Loveland, CO, U.S.A. 80537<BR><BR>970 679 3799 Tel<BR>970 635 6867 Fax</FONT> </P><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #0000ff 2px solid">  <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma   size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mike Groves   [mailto:mikegroves@pacbell.net]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Saturday, January 24, 2004   12:15 AM<BR><B>To:</B> PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1)<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf]   RE: VeeRun 6.0 web download<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>  <DIV><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff>Andrew,</FONT></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Yep.   Agilent, in their apparent desire to keep VEE out of the mainstream, has   made the free VEE runtime files </FONT></SPAN><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>EXTREMELY difficult   for the average user to download. Yes it is free to download and   install. Here are the somewhat "official" D/L instructions for VEE   Pro 6.2 RunTime (which works fine for prior versions   of VEE)...</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN class=984233120-23012004>  <OL class=text>    <LI class=text>Click <A href="http://adn.tm.agilent.com"><FONT     color=#336699>http://adn.tm.agilent.com</FONT></A>     <LI class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004>Under 'My ADN' (in the right     margin), click on 'Register Now'.</SPAN>     <LI class=text>Register your<SPAN class=984233120-23012004>     personal</SPAN> <SPAN class=984233120-23012004>information</SPAN> to     obtain a login & password to the site.     <LI class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004>Log into the ADN site.</SPAN>     <LI class=text>Click on the 'Downloads' link<SPAN class=984233120-23012004>     in the right margin.</SPAN>     <LI class=text>Click on the 'Downloads' button to view a drop-down menu.     <LI class=text>Select '<SPAN class=984233120-23012004>Software:</SPAN>     VEE<SPAN class=984233120-23012004> Pro</SPAN>', then 'VEE <SPAN     class=984233120-23012004>Pro</SPAN>' from the drop-down menu.     <LI class=text>Locate the 'Agilent VEE Pro 6.<SPAN     class=984233120-23012004>2</SPAN> Runtime Bundle' heading, and click on the     'Read Me' link to view the installation instructions.     <LI class=text>Click on the 'Download' link to obtain the VEE Runtime     installation file. <SPAN class=984233120-23012004>(Be prepared, it's     46.5 MB!)</SPAN></LI></OL>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><FONT color=#0000ff>Now, if you   are interested only in the VEE 6.01 RunTime, just modify lines   7-9 as follows:</FONT></SPAN></DIV><SPAN class=984233120-23012004>  <DIV><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT> </DIV>  <DIV> <SPAN class=984233120-23012004>   7.  Select '<SPAN   class=984233120-23012004>Software:</SPAN> VEE<SPAN class=984233120-23012004>   Pro</SPAN>', and then 'VEE <SPAN class=984233120-23012004>Pro   Archive</SPAN>' from the drop-down menu.</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004>    8.    Locate the 'Agilent VEE Pro 6.01 Runtime Bundle' heading, and click on the   'Read Me' link to view the installation instructions. </SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004>    9.    Click on the 'Download' link to obtain the VEE Runtime installation   file. <SPAN class=984233120-23012004>(This one is only 22.5   MB)</SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff><STRONG><EM>OR...</EM></STRONG> you can use a "secret"   link to DL the VEE 6.01 RunTime files directly from   the Agilent website <EM>without</EM> logging in to ADN!   </FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>It's actually an   outdated link originally designed to download a small   Analyzer software package for the E4416A EPM-P   Series Power Meter that required VEE RunTime, so they included it in the   ZIP file. In the latest version they took out the VEE   RunTime package, BUT, the old ZIP file is still in   the system! Here's the URL...</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><A   href="http://we.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/tmo/downloads/EPSG086418.zip">http://we.home.agilent.com/upload/cmc_upload/tmo/downloads/EPSG086418.zip</A></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Don't run the "Setup"   program in the root of the ZIP, rather run the "Setup" program   found in the RUNTIME subdirectory.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Wouldn't it   would be just too easy for Agilent to put the RunTime   files in the same FTP folder where the VEE 3, VEE 4, and   VEE 5 RunTime files have lived for   YEARS?<BR></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff><A   href="ftp://ftp.agilent.com/pub/mpusup/pc/binfiles/vee/">ftp://ftp.agilent.com/pub/mpusup/pc/binfiles/vee/</A></FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>But no, they force you   to go through a login process. Personally, I detest websites that force me to   login just to download </FONT></SPAN></SPAN><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff>something that is free to begin with (like a   hardware driver, or a manual).</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Also, why in the world   did the RunTime DOUBLE in size from 6.01 to 6.1 and above? That seems   incredible to me.</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Questions,   questions...</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial   color=#0000ff></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff>Mike   Groves</FONT></SPAN></SPAN></DIV></SPAN></SPAN></DIV>  <DIV class=text><SPAN class=984233120-23012004><SPAN   class=984233120-23012004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff   size=2></FONT></SPAN></SPAN> </DIV></SPAN>  <BLOCKQUOTE>    <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma     size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Andrew Fudge     [mailto:AndrewF@genesysibs.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Friday, January 23, 2004     4:52 AM<BR><B>To:</B> VRF<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf] VeeRun 6.0 web     download<BR><BR></FONT></DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Hello all</FONT></DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>I am having trouble finding where I can     download VeeRun 6.0 off the web.  I can't believe that it doesn't show     up on the Agilent site search.  It doesn't show up in a Google search     either.</FONT></DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>It is royalty free right? (no charges/license     for RunTime installation)</FONT></DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>We need to pass the download link to a customer     for easy download.</FONT></DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Does anyone know where it can be downloaded off     the web?  Any help much appreciated.</FONT></DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Thanks in advance</FONT></DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2></FONT> </DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Andrew Fudge</FONT></DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>Genesys IBS</FONT></DIV>    <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2>UK</FONT></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>---<BR>You are   currently subscribed to vrf as: scott_bayes@agilent.com<BR>To subscribe send a   blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To unsubscribe send a   blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to   this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the   mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>Send   your favorite VEE example to "VRF-EXAMPLES@agilent.com" for possible inclusion   in VEE 7.0! </BLOCKQUOTE>---<BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: rsb@soco.agilent.com<BR>To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to this mailing list,  email "vrf@agilent.com".  <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>Send your favorite VEE example to "VRF-EXAMPLES@agilent.com" for possible inclusion in VEE 7.0!</BODY></HTML>  

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