> If you're going to take the time and resources to become
> proficient with a particular language, then you would
> like that skill to make you more sellable in the future.
Unfortunately things change very quickly. I spent a long time with C, and
then C++ was all the rage. So I started doing C++. Then after 5 years with
MFC, suddenly I found out that you really need API experience before you
understand what's really going on. Then while I was doing that I had to
delve into series 80, 96, 97 and 98 languages. Then it was RMB. Then it was
Basic for Windows. Then VEE.
As far as general purpose Windows goes, the emphasis moved away from C++
some time ago. I'm an "old timer". It switched to VB, now it's C#, VB and
their interaction with .Net. Tomorrow it will be something else.
Thank god the various Win APIs remain C based. As long as that's true I'll
still know what I'm doing. For the most part anyway.
-SHAWN-
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> proficient with a particular language, then you would
> like that skill to make you more sellable in the future.
Unfortunately things change very quickly. I spent a long time with C, and
then C++ was all the rage. So I started doing C++. Then after 5 years with
MFC, suddenly I found out that you really need API experience before you
understand what's really going on. Then while I was doing that I had to
delve into series 80, 96, 97 and 98 languages. Then it was RMB. Then it was
Basic for Windows. Then VEE.
As far as general purpose Windows goes, the emphasis moved away from C++
some time ago. I'm an "old timer". It switched to VB, now it's C#, VB and
their interaction with .Net. Tomorrow it will be something else.
Thank god the various Win APIs remain C based. As long as that's true I'll
still know what I'm doing. For the most part anyway.
-SHAWN-
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As a laid-off RF design engineer that grew up with VEE and have used it
to create RF test racks when I wasn't designing, can tell you there are
*VERY* few VEE jobs in the San Francisco Bay Area. I've been looking for
something I can do on the side while waiting for a good design position.
OTOH, I can list at least 15 jobs in this area on Yahoo HotJobs alone
that ask for experienced LabView people.
It's really hard for me to tell if an employer is asking for LabView
experience because he does not know anything different, or is it that
they have other projects written in LabView, and the staff to support
it, and do not wish to change. When I propose showing them how I can
help them faster and cheaper with a VEE approach (may not be totally
true, but it was there to catch their attention anyway) so far I have
yet to receive any response back.
BTW, regarding Agilent's marketing of VEE (or lack thereof), I propose
having the Agilent sales force pick up any number of industry "rags"
and count LabView ads versus VEE ads and then explain to me how lack of
exposure is supposed to help a relatively new kid in the market knock
off the much more deeply entrenched competition?
Even with the cutbacks of the VEE development team, look at the many
advances they made in VEE 7! My hat is truly off to them! Now let's
get the marketing team going and show VEE 7 to the rest of the world!
I am fearful that if things continue the way they have been within
Agilent, VEE will remain the unknown wonder for more years to come.
I'm sorry Scott and Nicole, I know you two work double duty to keep
the spirit of VEE alive, but this has been one of my pet peeves ever
since I first received VEE on a hand full of floppies MANY years ago.
I know you are probably as frustrated as many of us, but show a lot
more restraint than we do.
Mike Groves
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From: Alex.Barrett@raytheon.co.uk [mailto:Alex.Barrett@raytheon.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 12:00 AM
To: VRF
Subject: [vrf] the future of vee marketing?
<snip>
On the subject of the 'sad day', we're constantly badgered about going to
Labview, but it's all I know! - I keep my eyes open for VEE jobs, but
there's next to nothing in the UK - especially north of London, and then
only 1-2 jobs per month.
I just hope VEE7 and the .net stuff gets people excited again.
Alex.
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