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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV> Hell VRFer's</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Rod, That was great, I got a chuckle from #2. It reminded me of a drug dealer giving the free sample to get the user hooked then charging for everything after that. I love the idea of Vee becoming main stream for things other than just T & M. It could happen but for two problems I have been complaining about for years. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>1. VEE does not have the ability to generate an EXE or other file that runs on system OS's. The installation of the runtime and IO Libs make it difficult for an easy sell. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>2. The "Look and Feel" of being a real windows program keep it from being a main stream program. An example would be one of my favorite complaints, the menus and toolbars. The .Net support may lend itself to solving this, But alas I am not skilled in the ways of .net and know not how this is to be done. More examples, and some of this type of use of the .net feature would also greatly help sell VEE to the world currently occupied by NI.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Would it really be that hard to create a compiler for VEE to allow EXE's?? Dunno, but I for one would love to see it.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Another marketing suggestion may be found right here on the VRF. I for one would love to tout VEE to schools and colleges and would work for "VEE" or to be more specific a full licensed copy for me at home. I would donate a couple visits to a few local schools and colleges per month, if Agilent would help set this up and donate the copies for said institutions. What the heck, I get every other Friday off. To spend 2 or three hours every week or two to introduce VEE and VRF to the world might just be fun. Scott And Nicole I as well appreciate and applaud all your efforts and wonder if any of the above would be possible.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>As for the support issue, maybe I am missing something but I get great support form Agilent and the VRF. I had a problem just the other day with a vee.io file not working or being saved with the program. When I called for support the T&M Call center put me right through to an engineer who post here and he was suspicious that it might be more than a little problem so he connected me to "someone at the factory" , whose name I will also not mention so as not to embarrass Scott, who took care of my questions. So am I missing something on that??</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Mark</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>-----Original Message----- From: ramarquardt@ra.rockwell.com [mailto:ramarquardt@ra.rockwell.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:49 AM To: VRF Cc: ramarquardt@tds.net; marquardt@characterlink.net Subject: [vrf] The future of vee marketing? Another two cents (more or less) worth </DIV><BLOCKQUOTE> Hello All, VEE is GREAT ! So is the Mac OS. The discussions so far - point heavily to VEE marketing to make or break VEE. Apple could NOT figure out a way to out market MicroSoft, hence the stagnation of an excellent OS for personal computers. Windows is an awfull OS both for the user and the programmer. In spite of that we all use Windows, why? Marketing of course. The biggest marketing detriment is the loss of the HP name. Once HP T&M became Agilent - their name became known only to those in the world of T&M and then only those already familiar with HP T&M [a pretty large percentage no doubt]. Every one in the world [even in many third world countries] knows HP. They should have retained the HP name and called it "HP Test and Measurement Corporation" or something like that. Some suggestions: 1) Work some deal with HP to get the name back. This would be worth "All The Tea In China" - so to speak. 2) For the short term, treat VEE as a marketing tool to leverage sales. As long as Agilent treats it as a source of income it will languish. Once it comes into common use, income could be generated by selling upgrades, features and add ons. 3) Get VEE onto to every household, grade school, high school and college PC Make a non T&M version and give it away free. Include some MATLAB capability for high school and college users (maybe a small FEE?). Get computer manufacters to bundle it with their PC's [HP/Compaq shouldn't be too difficult?] 4) Sell the T&M component(s) or version separately. Income can be generated here but I suggest lowering the cost, give more away free. Sell or give away more value adds - tools & components to Test Engineers even more productive. VEE is an extremely high productivity tool, better than anything out there [that I know of], show the world! I would LOVE to have a copy for home use, but I won't pay $100's for it when I can get lots of free stuff my kids can learn on. 5) Advertise. Show how easily kids can learn computer programming and be able to use it to automate repetitive tasks [school - home - etc]; to make games, to make internet games [like the battle ship sample]. They could make their own tutoring applications to execute multiplication drills, etc. Agilent needs a vision to win in the market place. 6) For T&M make sure there are a very intelligent set of instrument drivers for both Agilent and all competitors equipment. Especially for outdated instruments that many of us are still stuck with. The goal should be to make your customers productive - don't make them write instrument drivers [provide a good tool to teach them how in case they want to]; help them succeed by getting their Test Equipment into production faster. Why should we have 1000's of folks all developing their own versions of instrument drivers. Develop a standard than will be backwards compatible with old style drivers or driver interfaces. 7) NEVER drop support of old products. We were burned when TDE support was dropped by HP/Agilent. They lost a lot of trust as a business because we had $5M of equipment running TDE with no migration path. All that was needed was for Agilent to provide a VEE TDE Library to allow transition of our test software from UNIX based systems to PC's. I reverse engineered my own TDE library which covered the small portion my department was using but we still have $5M of equipment stuck with UNIX (too costly to rewrite 1000's of test programs just to eliminate TDE). Our leadership even stopped looking at Agilent for big test items like the 3070 and AOI because of that. It is very likely management here will dictate us to drop VEE altogether. 8) Provide tools to integrate test automation with VEE in manufacturing. Like Machine Vision. Rob Marquardt One For VEE - VEE For All !!!! --- You are currently subscribed to vrf as: Mark.Goldberg@ATK.COM To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". 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Other than VEE days I have not seen any action from Agilent's marketing department in terms of events, seminars, webinars etc...meanwhile I get at least one of this invitations a month...by the way with different topics every month...I have resisted so far...but you know...curiosity kill the cat, so may be one day I'll sign up, go and "VEE" killed by curiosity...</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Sad day in deed!!!</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>G</DIV><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: |Lisa Turner [mailto:lisa.turner@ni.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:55 PM To: Gonzalo Subject: Sign up today for the NI LabVIEW/Data Acquisition seminar in Ft Lauderdale. </DIV><IMG src="http://www.ni.com/images/email/us/metal_full.gif" NOSEND="1">Dear Gonzalo Urday:Sign up today for the <A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/ex7kuw">LabVIEW and Data Acquisition Seminar</A> in Fort Lauderdale on Wednesday, March 31.This seminar is complimentary, but space is limited. For directions, to register, or for other seminars in your area, <A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/exxzci">click here</A>.Location/Date Information: <A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/ex78nj">Fort Lauderdale, FL</A> Sheraton Suites Cypress Creek 555 NW 62nd Street (954) 772-5400 Wednesday, March 31, 2004<A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/ex7kuw">LabVIEW and Data Acquisition Seminar</A> 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. Take an in-depth look at the graphical programming language inherent to LabVIEW. This seminar covers LabVIEW, an industry-standard virtual instrumentation software, and data acquisition using LabVIEW. Take this opportunity to learn more about graphical programming and the future of virtual instrumentation.Agenda:<UL> <LI> <DIV align=left>Simple data acquisition using LabVIEW (analog I/O and digital I/O) </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Signal conditioning (amplification, filtering, excitation, isolation, linearization, etc.) </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Monitor and control your LabVIEW application over the Web </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Publish live data over the Internet </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Preview of instrument control using LabVIEW (IEEE 488 industry standard) </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Find out the new features of LabVIEW 7 Express </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Learn new technologies such as PXI and FieldPoint </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Hear an overview of companion products that extend the functionality of LabVIEW</DIV></LI></UL>National Instruments seminars are complimentary, but seating is limited. For reservations, directions, or for more information, <A href="http://www.ni.com/seminars/usa.htm">click here</A>, or send e-mail to: <A href="mailto:ni.register@ni.com">ni.register@ni.com</A>, or call (888) 444-3539.Please extend this invitation to your colleagues.Call or e-mail your local NI technical engineer representative to arrange a visit or schedule a customized onsite consultation.<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> Steve Caton - Southern Florida/Panhandle (954) 885-4881, <A href="mailto:steve.caton@ni.com">steve.caton@ni.com</A></BLOCKQUOTE>Best regards,Lisa Turner Seminar Coordinator National Instruments (512) 683-9466P.S. Don't miss Automated Test Summit 2004 in Orlando on Thursday, April 29th! At this one-day event, National Instruments and distinguished industry partners will present technical training and demonstrations on leading-edge automated test strategies and developments. 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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV>Hello VRFers:</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Perhaps this type of emails from NI are the reason why some people are defecting to labview...Marketing in Agilent has never been strong..great products...poor marketing/customer relationship. Other than VEE days I have not seen any action from Agilent's marketing department in terms of events, seminars, webinars etc...meanwhile I get at least one of this invitations a month...by the way with different topics every month...I have resisted so far...but you know...curiosity kill the cat, so may be one day I'll sign up, go and "VEE" killed by curiosity...</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Sad day in deed!!!</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>G</DIV><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: |Lisa Turner [mailto:lisa.turner@ni.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:55 PM To: Gonzalo Subject: Sign up today for the NI LabVIEW/Data Acquisition seminar in Ft Lauderdale. </DIV><IMG src="http://www.ni.com/images/email/us/metal_full.gif" NOSEND="1">Dear Gonzalo Urday:Sign up today for the <A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/ex7kuw">LabVIEW and Data Acquisition Seminar</A> in Fort Lauderdale on Wednesday, March 31.This seminar is complimentary, but space is limited. For directions, to register, or for other seminars in your area, <A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/exxzci">click here</A>.Location/Date Information: <A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/ex78nj">Fort Lauderdale, FL</A> Sheraton Suites Cypress Creek 555 NW 62nd Street (954) 772-5400 Wednesday, March 31, 2004<A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/ex7kuw">LabVIEW and Data Acquisition Seminar</A> 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. Take an in-depth look at the graphical programming language inherent to LabVIEW. This seminar covers LabVIEW, an industry-standard virtual instrumentation software, and data acquisition using LabVIEW. Take this opportunity to learn more about graphical programming and the future of virtual instrumentation.Agenda:<UL> <LI> <DIV align=left>Simple data acquisition using LabVIEW (analog I/O and digital I/O) </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Signal conditioning (amplification, filtering, excitation, isolation, linearization, etc.) </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Monitor and control your LabVIEW application over the Web </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Publish live data over the Internet </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Preview of instrument control using LabVIEW (IEEE 488 industry standard) </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Find out the new features of LabVIEW 7 Express </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Learn new technologies such as PXI and FieldPoint </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Hear an overview of companion products that extend the functionality of LabVIEW</DIV></LI></UL>National Instruments seminars are complimentary, but seating is limited. For reservations, directions, or for more information, <A href="http://www.ni.com/seminars/usa.htm">click here</A>, or send e-mail to: <A href="mailto:ni.register@ni.com">ni.register@ni.com</A>, or call (888) 444-3539.Please extend this invitation to your colleagues.Call or e-mail your local NI technical engineer representative to arrange a visit or schedule a customized onsite consultation.<BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> Steve Caton - Southern Florida/Panhandle (954) 885-4881, <A href="mailto:steve.caton@ni.com">steve.caton@ni.com</A></BLOCKQUOTE>Best regards,Lisa Turner Seminar Coordinator National Instruments (512) 683-9466P.S. Don't miss Automated Test Summit 2004 in Orlando on Thursday, April 29th! At this one-day event, National Instruments and distinguished industry partners will present technical training and demonstrations on leading-edge automated test strategies and developments. 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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1400" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV>Hello VRFers:</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Perhaps this type of emails from NI are the reason why some people are defecting to labview...Marketing in Agilent has never been strong..great products...poor marketing/customer relationship. Other than VEE days I have not seen any action from Agilent's marketing department in terms of events, seminars, webinars etc...meanwhile I get at least one of this invitations a month...by the way with different topics every month...I have resisted so far...but you know...curiosity kill the cat, so may be one day I'll sign up, go and "VEE" killed by curiosity...</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Sad day in deed!!!</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>G</DIV><DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: |Lisa Turner [mailto:lisa.turner@ni.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 17, 2004 8:55 PM To: Gonzalo Subject: Sign up today for the NI LabVIEW/Data Acquisition seminar in Ft Lauderdale. </DIV><IMG src="http://www.ni.com/images/email/us/metal_full.gif" NOSEND="1">Dear Gonzalo Urday:Sign up today for the <A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/ex7kuw">LabVIEW and Data Acquisition Seminar</A> in Fort Lauderdale on Wednesday, March 31.This seminar is complimentary, but space is limited. For directions, to register, or for other seminars in your area, <A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/exxzci">click here</A>.Location/Date Information: <A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/ex78nj">Fort Lauderdale, FL</A> Sheraton Suites Cypress Creek 555 NW 62nd Street (954) 772-5400 Wednesday, March 31, 2004<A href="http://digital.ni.com/express.nsf/bycode/ex7kuw">LabVIEW and Data Acquisition Seminar</A> 8:00 a.m. to 12:00 p.m. Take an in-depth look at the graphical programming language inherent to LabVIEW. This seminar covers LabVIEW, an industry-standard virtual instrumentation software, and data acquisition using LabVIEW. Take this opportunity to learn more about graphical programming and the future of virtual instrumentation.Agenda:<UL> <LI> <DIV align=left>Simple data acquisition using LabVIEW (analog I/O and digital I/O) </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Signal conditioning (amplification, filtering, excitation, isolation, linearization, etc.) </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Monitor and control your LabVIEW application over the Web </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Publish live data over the Internet </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Preview of instrument control using LabVIEW (IEEE 488 industry standard) </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Find out the new features of LabVIEW 7 Express </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Learn new technologies such as PXI and FieldPoint </DIV> <LI> <DIV align=left>Hear an overview of companion products that extend the functionality of LabVIEW</DIV></LI></UL>National Instruments seminars are complimentary, but seating is limited. 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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV>Excellent! Exactly what I was looking for - a clever approach.</DIV><DIV>Thank you everyone!</DIV><DIV>Regards,</DIV><DIV>Lee</DIV><DIV> </DIV>Lee Hudson, R&D Scientist LumiLeds Lighting, U.S., LLC 370 West Trimble Road, MS 91ML San Jose, CA 95131 (408) 435-5834 (408) 435-6574 FAX lee.hudson@lumileds.com <A href="http://www.lumileds.com/">http://www.lumileds.com</A> <A href="http://www.luxeon.com/">http://www.luxeon.com</A> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: MEANEY,TIM (A-USA,ex1) Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:53 PM To: PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1) Subject: [vrf] RE: Finding the index of an array </DIV> <DIV>Subtract your real64 scalar from the real64 array. Use the minIndex function to return the index of the element with the smallest value in the resulting array. See attached...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tim </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: HUDSON,LEE (Non-A-Lumileds,ex1) Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:20 PM To: PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1) Subject: [vrf] Finding the index of an array </DIV> <DIV>I have a large 1D array of Real64 numbers (i.e. 2048 numbers in the array). I want to compare the values in the array to another Real64 scalar and find the index of the number closest to it in the array. Does anyone have a clever way of implementing this in VEE?</DIV> <DIV>Regards, Lee</DIV> Lee Hudson, R&D Scientist LumiLeds Lighting, U.S., LLC 370 West Trimble Road, MS 91ML San Jose, CA 95131 (408) 435-5834 (408) 435-6574 FAX lee.hudson@lumileds.com <A href="http://www.lumileds.com/">http://www.lumileds.com</A> <A href="http://www.luxeon.com/">http://www.luxeon.com</A> <DIV> </DIV>--- You are currently subscribed to vrf as: tim_meaney@agilent.com To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". If you need help with the mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>--- You are currently subscribed to vrf as: rsb@soco.agilent.com To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". If you need help with the mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".</BODY></HTML>
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1106" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV>Excellent! Exactly what I was looking for - a clever approach.</DIV><DIV>Thank you everyone!</DIV><DIV>Regards,</DIV><DIV>Lee</DIV><DIV> </DIV>Lee Hudson, R&D Scientist LumiLeds Lighting, U.S., LLC 370 West Trimble Road, MS 91ML San Jose, CA 95131 (408) 435-5834 (408) 435-6574 FAX lee.hudson@lumileds.com <A href="http://www.lumileds.com/">http://www.lumileds.com</A> <A href="http://www.luxeon.com/">http://www.luxeon.com</A> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: MEANEY,TIM (A-USA,ex1) Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 6:53 PM To: PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1) Subject: [vrf] RE: Finding the index of an array </DIV> <DIV>Subtract your real64 scalar from the real64 array. Use the minIndex function to return the index of the element with the smallest value in the resulting array. See attached...</DIV> <DIV> </DIV> <DIV>Tim </DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left>-----Original Message----- From: HUDSON,LEE (Non-A-Lumileds,ex1) Sent: Tuesday, March 30, 2004 9:20 PM To: PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1) Subject: [vrf] Finding the index of an array </DIV> <DIV>I have a large 1D array of Real64 numbers (i.e. 2048 numbers in the array). I want to compare the values in the array to another Real64 scalar and find the index of the number closest to it in the array. Does anyone have a clever way of implementing this in VEE?</DIV> <DIV>Regards, Lee</DIV> Lee Hudson, R&D Scientist LumiLeds Lighting, U.S., LLC 370 West Trimble Road, MS 91ML San Jose, CA 95131 (408) 435-5834 (408) 435-6574 FAX lee.hudson@lumileds.com <A href="http://www.lumileds.com/">http://www.lumileds.com</A> <A href="http://www.luxeon.com/">http://www.luxeon.com</A> <DIV> </DIV>--- You are currently subscribed to vrf as: tim_meaney@agilent.com To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". If you need help with the mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". </BLOCKQUOTE></BLOCKQUOTE>--- You are currently subscribed to vrf as: rsb@soco.agilent.com To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". If you need help with the mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".</BODY></HTML>
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<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1276" name=GENERATOR></HEAD><BODY><DIV> Hell VRFer's</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Rod, That was great, I got a chuckle from #2. It reminded me of a drug dealer giving the free sample to get the user hooked then charging for everything after that. I love the idea of Vee becoming main stream for things other than just T & M. It could happen but for two problems I have been complaining about for years. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>1. VEE does not have the ability to generate an EXE or other file that runs on system OS's. The installation of the runtime and IO Libs make it difficult for an easy sell. </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>2. The "Look and Feel" of being a real windows program keep it from being a main stream program. An example would be one of my favorite complaints, the menus and toolbars. The .Net support may lend itself to solving this, But alas I am not skilled in the ways of .net and know not how this is to be done. More examples, and some of this type of use of the .net feature would also greatly help sell VEE to the world currently occupied by NI.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Would it really be that hard to create a compiler for VEE to allow EXE's?? Dunno, but I for one would love to see it.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Another marketing suggestion may be found right here on the VRF. I for one would love to tout VEE to schools and colleges and would work for "VEE" or to be more specific a full licensed copy for me at home. I would donate a couple visits to a few local schools and colleges per month, if Agilent would help set this up and donate the copies for said institutions. What the heck, I get every other Friday off. To spend 2 or three hours every week or two to introduce VEE and VRF to the world might just be fun. Scott And Nicole I as well appreciate and applaud all your efforts and wonder if any of the above would be possible.</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>As for the support issue, maybe I am missing something but I get great support form Agilent and the VRF. I had a problem just the other day with a vee.io file not working or being saved with the program. When I called for support the T&M Call center put me right through to an engineer who post here and he was suspicious that it might be more than a little problem so he connected me to "someone at the factory" , whose name I will also not mention so as not to embarrass Scott, who took care of my questions. So am I missing something on that??</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>Mark</DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV> </DIV><DIV>-----Original Message----- From: ramarquardt@ra.rockwell.com [mailto:ramarquardt@ra.rockwell.com] Sent: Wednesday, March 31, 2004 9:49 AM To: VRF Cc: ramarquardt@tds.net; marquardt@characterlink.net Subject: [vrf] The future of vee marketing? Another two cents (more or less) worth </DIV><BLOCKQUOTE> Hello All, VEE is GREAT ! So is the Mac OS. The discussions so far - point heavily to VEE marketing to make or break VEE. Apple could NOT figure out a way to out market MicroSoft, hence the stagnation of an excellent OS for personal computers. Windows is an awfull OS both for the user and the programmer. In spite of that we all use Windows, why? Marketing of course. The biggest marketing detriment is the loss of the HP name. Once HP T&M became Agilent - their name became known only to those in the world of T&M and then only those already familiar with HP T&M [a pretty large percentage no doubt]. Every one in the world [even in many third world countries] knows HP. They should have retained the HP name and called it "HP Test and Measurement Corporation" or something like that. Some suggestions: 1) Work some deal with HP to get the name back. This would be worth "All The Tea In China" - so to speak. 2) For the short term, treat VEE as a marketing tool to leverage sales. As long as Agilent treats it as a source of income it will languish. Once it comes into common use, income could be generated by selling upgrades, features and add ons. 3) Get VEE onto to every household, grade school, high school and college PC Make a non T&M version and give it away free. Include some MATLAB capability for high school and college users (maybe a small FEE?). Get computer manufacters to bundle it with their PC's [HP/Compaq shouldn't be too difficult?] 4) Sell the T&M component(s) or version separately. Income can be generated here but I suggest lowering the cost, give more away free. Sell or give away more value adds - tools & components to Test Engineers even more productive. VEE is an extremely high productivity tool, better than anything out there [that I know of], show the world! I would LOVE to have a copy for home use, but I won't pay $100's for it when I can get lots of free stuff my kids can learn on. 5) Advertise. Show how easily kids can learn computer programming and be able to use it to automate repetitive tasks [school - home - etc]; to make games, to make internet games [like the battle ship sample]. They could make their own tutoring applications to execute multiplication drills, etc. Agilent needs a vision to win in the market place. 6) For T&M make sure there are a very intelligent set of instrument drivers for both Agilent and all competitors equipment. Especially for outdated instruments that many of us are still stuck with. The goal should be to make your customers productive - don't make them write instrument drivers [provide a good tool to teach them how in case they want to]; help them succeed by getting their Test Equipment into production faster. Why should we have 1000's of folks all developing their own versions of instrument drivers. Develop a standard than will be backwards compatible with old style drivers or driver interfaces. 7) NEVER drop support of old products. We were burned when TDE support was dropped by HP/Agilent. They lost a lot of trust as a business because we had $5M of equipment running TDE with no migration path. All that was needed was for Agilent to provide a VEE TDE Library to allow transition of our test software from UNIX based systems to PC's. I reverse engineered my own TDE library which covered the small portion my department was using but we still have $5M of equipment stuck with UNIX (too costly to rewrite 1000's of test programs just to eliminate TDE). Our leadership even stopped looking at Agilent for big test items like the 3070 and AOI because of that. It is very likely management here will dictate us to drop VEE altogether. 8) Provide tools to integrate test automation with VEE in manufacturing. Like Machine Vision. Rob Marquardt One For VEE - VEE For All !!!! --- You are currently subscribed to vrf as: Mark.Goldberg@ATK.COM To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". 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