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vrf being "put on hold" by vrf

Question asked by VRFuser on May 11, 2004
Hello vrf,

Barrie Walden recently posted the following. His complete message is at the end of this posting.

> Hi Folks,
>
> I received the following a few days ago from "Lyris ListManager"
> <lyris@it.lists.it.agilent.com>:
>
> > This email message is to notify you that your membership to vrf
> > has been put on "hold".
> > This means that you will not receive mail from 'vrf'.
>
> > Your subscription has been held because at least 5 recent
> messages have been
> > either bounced by your email system, or could not be
> delivered at all.

Our apologies for this problem. We have raised the limit for bounces and delivery failures to 20. Let's try that for a while and see if it eliminates the problem.

If you do find yourself put "on hold" by vrf, you can send a message to owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com to get help.

Best Regards,


Nicole Dierksheide
Scott Bayes
Software Technical Support

Agilent Technologies, Inc.
815 14th Street S.W.
Loveland, CO, U.S.A. 80537


> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Barrie Walden [mailto:bwalden@whoi.edu]
> > Sent: Tuesday, May 11, 2004 12:02 PM
> > To: PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1)
> > Subject: [vrf] Viruses, Firewalls and vrf on "Hold"
> >
> >
> > Hi Folks,
> >
> > I received the following a few days ago from "Lyris ListManager"
> > <lyris@it.lists.it.agilent.com>:
> >
> > > This email message is to notify you that your membership to vrf
> > > has been put on "hold".
> >
> > > This means that you will not receive mail from 'vrf'.
> >
> > > Your subscription has been held because at least 5 recent
> > messages have been
> > > either bounced by your email system, or could not be
> > delivered at all.
> > > ......
> > > Note that if your email address continues to reject mail
> > your subscription will
> > > once again be "held".
> >
> > As you might expect, my incoming mail must pass through a
> firewall and
> > this is what's causing the rejections.  I looked at the "rejected
> > message" list (103 messages in the last 5 days) and I can't
> > see anything
> > that the firewall appears to have done incorrectly.  In
> fact, at least
> > 2/3 of the rejects definitely contained viruses.  I don't know what
> > world the "Lyris Listmanager" is living in but refusing "5 recent
> > messages" has got to be "normal and expected" for most of
> us.  Also, I
> > wonder how the "ListManager" actually determines that a
> given message
> > was really sent by one of us and shouldn't have been rejected.
> >
> > Unfortunately, I can't determine what vrf messages were
> rejected - the
> > list I looked at had only one obvious vrf sender.  In general, our
> > firewall is not happy with .exe attachments (at the moment)
> > but I rarely
> > see these with vrf messages (all rejected?).  So,
> apparently, there is
> > nothing I can do to prevent getting kicked off the vrf in the future
> > and, even if there was, loosening our firewall because it rejected 5
> > questionable messages doesn't seem too bright.
> >
> > Barrie
> > whoi

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