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vrf Beeping VEE

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Hi Rufus and the vrf,

> If you're using .net you'll have to make sure each machine
> that uses your
> code has the ".net framework"

A final clarification:

With VEE 7, both Development and Runtime installers will install the .NET framework for you, unless it is already installed.

VEE 7 _will not run_ without the .NET Framework, because a lot of the new features in 7 depend on the Framework, e.g. the new Property pane, the enhanced Notepad and Descriptions, etc.

Also note that only the free .NET Framework is needed; Visual Studio .NET is _not_ needed for VEE 7, not even to use the new .NET Framework Scripting features in VEE 7.

VS .NET is only needed if you want to develop in VB .NET, C#, COBOL, etc (actually it's not even needed for those if you're a Rugged Individualist who uses the Command Prompt for all your development needs

Best Regards,

Scott Bayes
Software Technical Support

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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Rufus Warren [mailto:rwarren@amti.net]
> Sent: Friday, June 25, 2004 8:46 AM
> To: BAYES,SCOTT (A-Loveland,ex1); PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1)
> Subject: RE: [vrf] RE: Beeping VEE
>
>
> If you're using .net you'll have to make sure each machine
> that uses your
> code has the ".net framework"
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: BAYES,SCOTT (A-Loveland,ex1) [mailto:scott_bayes@agilent.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 4:48 PM
> To: VRF
> Cc: PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1)
> Subject: [vrf] RE: Beeping VEE
>
> Hi Shawn, vrf-ers,
>
> > no parameters. And in the example I had to add
> > "Microsoft.VisualBasic." in front of "Interaction.Beep()". I don't
> > remember having to specify an explicit namespace when an
> unambiguous
> > name is already referenced. What's up with that?
>
> As far as I know, it doesn't matter whether the name is
> unambiguous or not,
> it matters whether you've imported the namespace in the .NET Assembly
> References... dialog.
>
> Detlef's app arrived with 2 namespaces imported from the VisualBasic
> assembly. The one that was necessary for the formula syntax
> to work was
> Microsoft.VisualBasic. If I went back through the references
> dialog and
> unchecked the namespace in the Import .NET Namespaces dialog,
> the program
> gave an error "Variable was not found: Interaction".
> Rechecking it caused
> the error to go away.
>
> Once you've imported namespaces, I'm not sure what happens
> with an ambiguous
> reference that could originate from more than one namespace.
>
> In general, life is usually easier with .NET if you import all the
> namespaces you'll need, especially if typing is not your bag.
>
> > NO WAY! Check this out. If I run it as opened, it doesn't
> work. If I
> > then open the FOB & drill down to Beep, click Create, paste
> it in and
> > get rid of the original THEN IT WORKS! What the heck is up with
> > THAT???
> > There's no
> > difference!
>
> The F&O Browser creates a fully qualified path to the method
> which works
> independent of the Import Namespaces setting.
>
> No idea why Detlef's program arrived in your mailbox with the
> namespace not
> imported however; on my system it was imported and worked
> right from the
> start.
>
> Best Regards,
>
>
> Scott Bayes
> Software Technical Support
>
> Agilent Technologies, Inc.
> 815 14th Street S.W.
> Loveland, CO, U.S.A. 80537
>
> 970 679 3799 Tel
> 970 635 6867 Fax
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:20 AM
> > To: PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1)
> > Subject: [vrf] RE: Beeping VEE
> >
> >
> > > ???.NET framework1.0/1.1???Beep()???????????????????:
> > >(a) ??Win32 API:
> > > [DllImport("kernal32.dll")]
> > > public static extern bool Beep(int freq, int duration);
> >
> > That's the one.
> >
> > > was very interesting to search for
> >
> > I guess! How exactly did you find this? In the SDK
> documentation, all
> > I can find is VB Beep with no parameters.
> >
> > Wait a sec. So how does one go about *using* this? I still got one
> > Beep with no parameters. And in the example I had to add
> > "Microsoft.VisualBasic." in front of "Interaction.Beep()". I don't
> > remember having to specify an explicit namespace when an
> unambiguous
> > name is already referenced. What's up with that?
> >
> > NO WAY! Check this out. If I run it as opened, it doesn't
> work. If I
> > then open the FOB & drill down to Beep, click Create, paste
> it in and
> > get rid of the original THEN IT WORKS! What the heck is up with
> > THAT???
> > There's no
> > difference!
> >
> > Oh, now it *does* work. Now if I reboot, open it again and
> click go it
> > doesn't work. Now if I close it, reopen it then IT DOES!!!
> >
> > Iyeyey. I'm going to bed.
> > -SHAWN-
> >
> >
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detlef.baranski Jun 23, 2004 1:31 AM

Sound and .net --- was very interesting to search for ;-)

Here is some information:

???.NET framework1.0/1.1???Beep()???????????????????:
(a) ??Win32 API:
    [DllImport("kernal32.dll")]
    public static extern bool Beep(int freq, int duration);

(b) MessageBeepType
    public enum MessageBeepType
    {
        Default = -1,
        Ok = 0x00000000,
        Error = 0x00000010,
        Question = 0x00000020,
        Warning = 0x00000030,
        Information = 0x00000040,
    }
    [DllImport("user32.dll", SetLastError=true)]
    public static extern bool MessageBeep(MessageBeepType type);

(c)     ??VB assembly??Beep()
?????Microsoft.VisualBasic.dll????????:
    Microsoft.VisualBasic.Interaction.Beep()

and the future brings:

?Whidbey (.NET Framework V2.0)??Framework?????Beep():
        Console.Beep();
        Console.Beep(int frequency, in duration);

------

If you want some other possibilities- have a look under the activeX-Controls
of playing sounds in the V7/examples/games folder, which shows how to play
wave-files.

But it is not just one line , sorry.

or execute just a soundfile with integrated player .

best regards,
detlef

-----Ursprngliche Nachricht-----
Von: STREET,ANDY (A-England,ex2) [mailto:andy_street@agilent.com]
Gesendet: 22 June 2004 19:56
An: VRF
Betreff: [vrf] Beeping VEE

Hi VRF,

A simple question, maybe... Does anyone know how to get VEE to make the PC
beep?

1) The native VEE beep function is too lame on modern PCs

2) Could get Matlab to issue a beep for me, but a little clunky

3) Could make a call to the Windows API (but this gets messy in my
application as I need beeps in a bunch of different UF libraries and do not
want to have every library calling the dll) - and I do not want to rely on
the calling environment having imported the Win API dll

4) So... VEE 7-0 and .net - can I do anything in .net that will make this oh
so clever machine emit a simple beep.

What I really want is a simple beep that I can issue with 1-2 lines of code,
without having to pull in a Windows API...

Will the might of .net help?

Thanks

Andy

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VRFuser Jun 23, 2004 11:20 AM

> ???.NET framework1.0/1.1???Beep()???????????????????:
>(a) ??Win32 API:
> [DllImport("kernal32.dll")]
> public static extern bool Beep(int freq, int duration);

That's the one.

> was very interesting to search for

I guess! How exactly did you find this? In the SDK documentation, all I can
find is VB Beep with no parameters.

Wait a sec. So how does one go about *using* this? I still got one Beep with
no parameters. And in the example I had to add "Microsoft.VisualBasic." in
front of "Interaction.Beep()". I don't remember having to specify an
explicit namespace when an unambiguous name is already referenced. What's up
with that?

NO WAY! Check this out. If I run it as opened, it doesn't work. If I then
open the FOB & drill down to Beep, click Create, paste it in and get rid of
the original THEN IT WORKS! What the heck is up with THAT??? There's no
difference!

Oh, now it *does* work. Now if I reboot, open it again and click go it
doesn't work. Now if I close it, reopen it then IT DOES!!!

Iyeyey. I'm going to bed.
-SHAWN-

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VRFuser Jun 23, 2004 6:33 PM

> Did find it with Google after searching for .net, sound and beep:

Oh! Uhoh! I'm getting tunnel vision. I better go take some pictures or
something

> But have a look for this

The first time I open V7-Beep.vee it doesn't work. The second time I open it
it does. The first time I open it and run it VEE stops with "The variable
'Interaction' cannot be found." If I then close VEE and reopen V7-Beep.vee
it works fine. And all subsequent openings. If I reboot, then it doesn't
work the first time again.

Something is funny with the reference the first time it's opened, but it
gets taken care of the second time I open it. The only different thing is
that I'm opening the file from a network drive and I hope that has something
to do with it. I have to go earn some money this morning and I'll look into
exactly what is going wrong this evening.

Say, not that this has anything to do with VEE but I just saw this on the
IETF mailing list:

"I've sent in a draft which updates RFC 2476."...

"The major change from RFC 2476 is that the use of SMTP AUTH is now
mandatory."

It is now just a matter of time before this becomes official internet
policy. It's a turning point in history. It marks the death of one of the
great freedoms of the original killer app of the internet: the right to
remain anonymous. Just as the recent Supreme Court decision that withholding
identity is a crime marks the death of one of the great personal freedoms:
the right to remain anonymous. Cherish your freedom America. It's slipping
away faster than you think.

Sorry - sometimes politics really depresses me.
-SHAWN-

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VRFuser Jun 23, 2004 11:47 PM

Hi Shawn, vrf-ers,

> no parameters. And in the example I had to add
> "Microsoft.VisualBasic." in
> front of "Interaction.Beep()". I don't remember having to specify an
> explicit namespace when an unambiguous name is already
> referenced. What's up
> with that?

As far as I know, it doesn't matter whether the name is unambiguous or not, it matters whether you've imported the namespace in the .NET Assembly References... dialog.

Detlef's app arrived with 2 namespaces imported from the VisualBasic assembly. The one that was necessary for the formula syntax to work was Microsoft.VisualBasic. If I went back through the references dialog and unchecked the namespace in the Import .NET Namespaces dialog, the program gave an error "Variable was not found: Interaction". Rechecking it caused the error to go away.

Once you've imported namespaces, I'm not sure what happens with an ambiguous reference that could originate from more than one namespace.

In general, life is usually easier with .NET if you import all the namespaces you'll need, especially if typing is not your bag.

> NO WAY! Check this out. If I run it as opened, it doesn't
> work. If I then
> open the FOB & drill down to Beep, click Create, paste it in
> and get rid of
> the original THEN IT WORKS! What the heck is up with THAT???
> There's no
> difference!

The F&O Browser creates a fully qualified path to the method which works independent of the Import Namespaces setting.

No idea why Detlef's program arrived in your mailbox with the namespace not imported however; on my system it was imported and worked right from the start.

Best Regards,

Scott Bayes
Software Technical Support

Agilent Technologies, Inc.
815 14th Street S.W.
Loveland, CO, U.S.A. 80537

970 679 3799 Tel
970 635 6867 Fax

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 24, 2004 1:20 AM
> To: PDL-LISTS,VRF (A-Lists,unix1)
> Subject: [vrf] RE: Beeping VEE
>
>
> > ???.NET framework1.0/1.1???Beep()???????????????????:
> >(a) ??Win32 API:
> > [DllImport("kernal32.dll")]
> > public static extern bool Beep(int freq, int duration);
>
> That's the one.
>
> > was very interesting to search for
>
> I guess! How exactly did you find this? In the SDK
> documentation, all I can
> find is VB Beep with no parameters.
>
> Wait a sec. So how does one go about *using* this? I still
> got one Beep with
> no parameters. And in the example I had to add
> "Microsoft.VisualBasic." in
> front of "Interaction.Beep()". I don't remember having to specify an
> explicit namespace when an unambiguous name is already
> referenced. What's up
> with that?
>
> NO WAY! Check this out. If I run it as opened, it doesn't
> work. If I then
> open the FOB & drill down to Beep, click Create, paste it in
> and get rid of
> the original THEN IT WORKS! What the heck is up with THAT???
> There's no
> difference!
>
> Oh, now it *does* work. Now if I reboot, open it again and click go it
> doesn't work. Now if I close it, reopen it then IT DOES!!!
>
> Iyeyey. I'm going to bed.
> -SHAWN-
>
>
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detlef.baranski Jun 23, 2004 11:54 PM

Hello from Gregg C Levine
Shawn, everyone else besides me, who's been watching that subject,
still another thought occurred to me.

I am going to setup a totally different distribution of the server to
talk to VEE here. I want to see if the machine is responsible party,
rather then Windows itself.

Shawn I did some thinking about your current complaint regarding those
times that I reported, and I concur with your thoughts. If it's the
kludge of a scheduling program that Windows uses that's at fault, then
it will be seen here. If it has to do with the way the protocols, and
the networking daemons send data over Ethernet via a router VEE
itself, then the Windows scheduler is not to blame.

Ken if you want to reproduce this in your lab, then please take the
time to write me off list, I don't want to clog the list with this
discussion.
-------------------
Gregg C Levine hansolofalcon@worldnet.att.net
------------------------------------------------------------
"The Force will be with you...Always." Obi-Wan Kenobi
"Use the Force, Luke." Obi-Wan Kenobi

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VRFuser Jun 24, 2004 4:28 AM

Hi VRF/Shawn

This reminds me of a problem when running VEE3 programs under W98 (obviously
not supported). On some systems, the first time the program runs, it
generates a GP error. If you run it a second time, it works OK. Re-booting
re-starts the process.

May or may not be of interest, just thinking out loud.

Regards
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
Sent: 24 June 2004 15:33
To: VRF
Subject: [vrf] RE: Beeping VEE

> Did find it with Google after searching for .net, sound and beep:

Oh! Uhoh! I'm getting tunnel vision. I better go take some pictures or
something

> But have a look for this

The first time I open V7-Beep.vee it doesn't work. The second time I open it
it does. The first time I open it and run it VEE stops with "The variable
'Interaction' cannot be found." If I then close VEE and reopen V7-Beep.vee
it works fine. And all subsequent openings. If I reboot, then it doesn't
work the first time again.

Something is funny with the reference the first time it's opened, but it
gets taken care of the second time I open it. The only different thing is
that I'm opening the file from a network drive and I hope that has something
to do with it. I have to go earn some money this morning and I'll look into
exactly what is going wrong this evening.

Say, not that this has anything to do with VEE but I just saw this on the
IETF mailing list:

"I've sent in a draft which updates RFC 2476."...

"The major change from RFC 2476 is that the use of SMTP AUTH is now
mandatory."

It is now just a matter of time before this becomes official internet
policy. It's a turning point in history. It marks the death of one of the
great freedoms of the original killer app of the internet: the right to
remain anonymous. Just as the recent Supreme Court decision that withholding
identity is a crime marks the death of one of the great personal freedoms:
the right to remain anonymous. Cherish your freedom America. It's slipping
away faster than you think.

Sorry - sometimes politics really depresses me.
-SHAWN-

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