Does not Vee 7 have all you want ?
okay, some folks may not want to upgrade...perhaps.
Give it a try...look for the evaluation version then.
Best regards,
detlef
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Gesendet: 14 July 2004 14:54
An: VRF
Betreff: [vrf] timestamp to string format
I'd like to take the data returned from a timestamp /now() variable and pass
it as a string to matlab for use in the title of a figure.
It's easy enough to unbuild the year month day info, but I was wondering how
to get the hms data.. ahh (thinks a little longer) I can rebuild the dmy to
a timestamp no format, then subtract, then a little bit of manipulation
and so on..
OK I can throw something together now, but out of interest anyone got
something to do this already that they would care to pass on... I seem to
have a vague recollection that it may have come up here previously.
cheers
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okay, some folks may not want to upgrade...perhaps.
Give it a try...look for the evaluation version then.
Best regards,
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I'd like to take the data returned from a timestamp /now() variable and pass
it as a string to matlab for use in the title of a figure.
It's easy enough to unbuild the year month day info, but I was wondering how
to get the hms data.. ahh (thinks a little longer) I can rebuild the dmy to
a timestamp no format, then subtract, then a little bit of manipulation
and so on..
OK I can throw something together now, but out of interest anyone got
something to do this already that they would care to pass on... I seem to
have a vague recollection that it may have come up here previously.
cheers
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In the past I've used an instance of the Microsoft Flex Grid to do this, but
that was almost a disaster: for some reason it creates a separate thread for
each row and/or column (forget which) and even though I explicitly deleted
old data the threads did not go away. After a hundred or so the computer
becomes very sluggish (though that was a long time ago now).
A list view control in Report mode is very nice - it looks and acts very
like an Excel spreadsheet. You can turn gridlines on or off, include
headings if you wish & so on. Not to mention the fact that you can interact
with VEE on it's click & double click events (the flex grid does that too
but it's less sophisticated than the list view).
All in all the list view isn't bad.
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I have been begging Agilent for a grid control for years. Third party grid controls are pretty tough to use (IMHO), and Microsoft charges for MS FlexGrid, which is pretty marginal at best (if you can get it to work). I just don't understand why Agilent doesn't give us a native Grid control. Is it wrong to ask for, and expect NEW features like this?
As some of you may know, I have been using an ADE similar to VEE recently. This other development environment has a Grid object, and it does everything that you would want a grid object to do. If we could just persuade the big "A" to incorporate a similar control into VEE, it would be totally awesome.
Will they ever do it? Is Agilent up to the task of incorporating any new NATIVE features into VEE, such as a flexgrid object? DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT SOME NEW NATIVE FEATURES, or is it just me??
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> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 08:36 AM
> To: VRF
> Subject: [vrf] Re: creating front panel with cell and grid.
>
>
> > I need a table too to present data in the front display.
>
> In the past I've used an instance of the Microsoft Flex Grid
> to do this, but
> that was almost a disaster: for some reason it creates a
> separate thread for
> each row and/or column (forget which) and even though I
> explicitly deleted
> old data the threads did not go away. After a hundred or so
> the computer
> becomes very sluggish (though that was a long time ago now).
>
> A list view control in Report mode is very nice - it looks
> and acts very
> like an Excel spreadsheet. You can turn gridlines on or off, include
> headings if you wish & so on. Not to mention the fact that
> you can interact
> with VEE on it's click & double click events (the flex grid
> does that too
> but it's less sophisticated than the list view).
>
> All in all the list view isn't bad.
> -SHAWN-
>
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> From: Robert Rais [mailto:Robert.Rais@us.yazaki.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:12 AM
> To: VRF
> Subject: [vrf] Re: creating front panel with cell and grid.
>
>
> Here is what I used in the past. If you are interested I can move
> forward on adding some of your requirements.
>
> Bob
>
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> From: Davis, Jeff [mailto:jeff.davis@cdi-es.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:58 PM
> To: VRF
> Subject: [vrf] Re: creating front panel with cell and grid.
>
> I am standing by, humbly waiting on a VEE 7.0 (or any VEE revision)
> FlexGrid type program to demo. Please provide any sample that you can
> that shows a Grid object similar to the one embedded herein.
> FREE LUNCH
> in Phoenix Arizona for the first sample submitted (.vxe please).
>
> Requirements for the grid:
>
> 1. A column, can be "locked" such that it is "gray'd" out for
> data entry
> (see column 1 "ECU Parameter" in attached) 2. A row, can be "locked"
> such that it is "gray'd" out for data entry (see row 1 "ECU Parameter"
> in attached) 3. All other cells are "live" and can be edited when the
> object is displayed on a Panel.
> 4. The contents of the Grid are stored to a 2D array as it is edited.
> 5. Vert and Horiz scroll bars are Object properties that may
> be ENABLED
> or DISABLED 6. Object Property of "Read Only" is allowed to be enabled
> or disabled for the entire grid 7. Grid can be populated, and Object
> property of "Make current values Default" can be enabled or disabled.
> 8. Can traverse the grid with mouse, or arrows, or TAB key as in
> "standard" MS Windows 9. Cursor placement follows cell selection, HOME
> and END keys function as in "standard" MS Windows
>
> NOTE: Lunch not to exceed $25.00, but you can pick the place and the
> time here in the greater Phoenix metropolitan area.
>
>
> Jeff Davis
> Lead Software Test Engineer
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> Electronics
> 3137 E Elwood # 160
> Phoenix, Arizona 85034
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>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 09:40 AM
> > To: VRF
> > Subject: [vrf] Re: creating front panel with cell and grid.
> >
> >
> > > DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT SOME NEW NATIVE FEATURES
> >
> > Probably the justification argument for including ActiveX
> (as well as
> > .NET) went something like, "...then we won't *have* to
> include any new
>
> > display objects..."
> > -SHAWN-
> >
>
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> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 10:12 AM
> To: VRF
> Subject: [vrf] Re: creating front panel with cell and grid.
>
>
> Here is what I used in the past. If you are interested I can move
> forward on adding some of your requirements.
>
> Bob
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Davis, Jeff [mailto:jeff.davis@cdi-es.com]
> Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 12:58 PM
> To: VRF
> Subject: [vrf] Re: creating front panel with cell and grid.
>
> I am standing by, humbly waiting on a VEE 7.0 (or any VEE revision)
> FlexGrid type program to demo. Please provide any sample that you can
> that shows a Grid object similar to the one embedded herein.
> FREE LUNCH
> in Phoenix Arizona for the first sample submitted (.vxe please).
>
> Requirements for the grid:
>
> 1. A column, can be "locked" such that it is "gray'd" out for
> data entry
> (see column 1 "ECU Parameter" in attached) 2. A row, can be "locked"
> such that it is "gray'd" out for data entry (see row 1 "ECU Parameter"
> in attached) 3. All other cells are "live" and can be edited when the
> object is displayed on a Panel.
> 4. The contents of the Grid are stored to a 2D array as it is edited.
> 5. Vert and Horiz scroll bars are Object properties that may
> be ENABLED
> or DISABLED 6. Object Property of "Read Only" is allowed to be enabled
> or disabled for the entire grid 7. Grid can be populated, and Object
> property of "Make current values Default" can be enabled or disabled.
> 8. Can traverse the grid with mouse, or arrows, or TAB key as in
> "standard" MS Windows 9. Cursor placement follows cell selection, HOME
> and END keys function as in "standard" MS Windows
>
> NOTE: Lunch not to exceed $25.00, but you can pick the place and the
> time here in the greater Phoenix metropolitan area.
>
>
> Jeff Davis
> Lead Software Test Engineer
> CDI Engineering Solutions Aerospace Technologies Embedded Systems and
> Electronics
> 3137 E Elwood # 160
> Phoenix, Arizona 85034
> Phone: (602)431-4497 (x226)
> Cell: (480)330-1431
> Fax: (602)431-4435
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> > Sent: Thursday, July 15, 2004 09:40 AM
> > To: VRF
> > Subject: [vrf] Re: creating front panel with cell and grid.
> >
> >
> > > DOES ANYONE ELSE WANT SOME NEW NATIVE FEATURES
> >
> > Probably the justification argument for including ActiveX
> (as well as
> > .NET) went something like, "...then we won't *have* to
> include any new
>
> > display objects..."
> > -SHAWN-
> >
>
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> with duplicating rows after restarting the vee app in
> developlment mode. Is that what you meant Shawn?
It wasn't a VEE thing really. If you add a row on the FG, for some reason
the control starts up another thread. If you remove that row, the thread
stays. One row was a summary of one test, and as tests came and went so rows
came and went.
When things started to slow down I checked VEE with the SDK process viewer
and found VEE owned over 100 threads. 100 threads per process is ludicrous!
That's when I started seriously looking into just how VEE works - HP said
that VEE didn't use any more than 4. Most of which sleep most of the time
anyway.
There is a point of diminishing returns when multithreading. It's quite like
disk thrashing: you spend more time switching thread contexts than actually
executing target code. It comes long, LONG before 100 threads though. And a
display object such as a grid has absolutely no business using MT anyway.
There's simply no point. I was actually impressed by Windows' ability to
keep going after a couple dozen of these errant threads were started. The
scheduler must have decided to ignore most of them or VEE would have
completely frozen up.
After I found out it was the flex grid I replaced it with a list control and
that problem went away. I've never used the FG since. It's wanton use and
mismanagement of resources is a perfect example of Windows programming at
it's most irresponsible.
No doubt about it: some MS products are the best on the market. MS compilers
(in particular their C/C++ compiler) have consistently beaten every
challenger. OTOH some MS products should just go away. MS-DOS was the
******* child of a toy port of CP/M for the x86. Windows should have been
much more carefully thought out (though NT is a lot better than the old
version). The Flex Grid should be erased from history. But then it's
probably not a MS product at all, but one that Bill took over from somebody
else.
Of course I also believe that the x86 architecture should be erased from
history too but that's another story.
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I thought it was something like that, though I didn't bother to show a time
input.
> a Duhhh! moment
God - If I only had a nickel for all of my duh moments.
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Shawn...
MAKE a FlexGrid type control work in VEE (NOT 7.0). Do it soon. It would sell !!!
Thanks,
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> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 06:13 AM
> To: VRF
> Subject: [vrf] Re: creating front panel with cell and grid.
>
>
> > I remember that at least VEE 5 has had those problems
> > with duplicating rows after restarting the vee app in
> > developlment mode. Is that what you meant Shawn?
>
> It wasn't a VEE thing really. If you add a row on the FG, for
> some reason
> the control starts up another thread. If you remove that row,
> the thread
> stays. One row was a summary of one test, and as tests came
> and went so rows
> came and went.
>
> When things started to slow down I checked VEE with the SDK
> process viewer
> and found VEE owned over 100 threads. 100 threads per process
> is ludicrous!
> That's when I started seriously looking into just how VEE
> works - HP said
> that VEE didn't use any more than 4. Most of which sleep most
> of the time
> anyway.
>
> There is a point of diminishing returns when multithreading.
> It's quite like
> disk thrashing: you spend more time switching thread contexts
> than actually
> executing target code. It comes long, LONG before 100 threads
> though. And a
> display object such as a grid has absolutely no business
> using MT anyway.
> There's simply no point. I was actually impressed by Windows'
> ability to
> keep going after a couple dozen of these errant threads were
> started. The
> scheduler must have decided to ignore most of them or VEE would have
> completely frozen up.
>
> After I found out it was the flex grid I replaced it with a
> list control and
> that problem went away. I've never used the FG since. It's
> wanton use and
> mismanagement of resources is a perfect example of Windows
> programming at
> it's most irresponsible.
>
> No doubt about it: some MS products are the best on the
> market. MS compilers
> (in particular their C/C++ compiler) have consistently beaten every
> challenger. OTOH some MS products should just go away. MS-DOS was the
> ******* child of a toy port of CP/M for the x86. Windows
> should have been
> much more carefully thought out (though NT is a lot better
> than the old
> version). The Flex Grid should be erased from history. But then it's
> probably not a MS product at all, but one that Bill took over
> from somebody
> else.
>
> Of course I also believe that the x86 architecture should be
> erased from
> history too but that's another story.
> -SHAWN-
>
>
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Shawn...
MAKE a FlexGrid type control work in VEE (NOT 7.0). Do it soon. It would sell !!!
Thanks,
Jeff Davis
Lead Software Test Engineer
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3137 E Elwood # 160
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Shawn Fessenden [mailto:shawn@testech-ltd.com]
> Sent: Friday, July 16, 2004 06:13 AM
> To: VRF
> Subject: [vrf] Re: creating front panel with cell and grid.
>
>
> > I remember that at least VEE 5 has had those problems
> > with duplicating rows after restarting the vee app in
> > developlment mode. Is that what you meant Shawn?
>
> It wasn't a VEE thing really. If you add a row on the FG, for
> some reason
> the control starts up another thread. If you remove that row,
> the thread
> stays. One row was a summary of one test, and as tests came
> and went so rows
> came and went.
>
> When things started to slow down I checked VEE with the SDK
> process viewer
> and found VEE owned over 100 threads. 100 threads per process
> is ludicrous!
> That's when I started seriously looking into just how VEE
> works - HP said
> that VEE didn't use any more than 4. Most of which sleep most
> of the time
> anyway.
>
> There is a point of diminishing returns when multithreading.
> It's quite like
> disk thrashing: you spend more time switching thread contexts
> than actually
> executing target code. It comes long, LONG before 100 threads
> though. And a
> display object such as a grid has absolutely no business
> using MT anyway.
> There's simply no point. I was actually impressed by Windows'
> ability to
> keep going after a couple dozen of these errant threads were
> started. The
> scheduler must have decided to ignore most of them or VEE would have
> completely frozen up.
>
> After I found out it was the flex grid I replaced it with a
> list control and
> that problem went away. I've never used the FG since. It's
> wanton use and
> mismanagement of resources is a perfect example of Windows
> programming at
> it's most irresponsible.
>
> No doubt about it: some MS products are the best on the
> market. MS compilers
> (in particular their C/C++ compiler) have consistently beaten every
> challenger. OTOH some MS products should just go away. MS-DOS was the
> ******* child of a toy port of CP/M for the x86. Windows
> should have been
> much more carefully thought out (though NT is a lot better
> than the old
> version). The Flex Grid should be erased from history. But then it's
> probably not a MS product at all, but one that Bill took over
> from somebody
> else.
>
> Of course I also believe that the x86 architecture should be
> erased from
> history too but that's another story.
> -SHAWN-
>
>
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