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Pendergrass Darryl <p22012@gegpo2.geg.mot.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for guidance or tools that facilitate configuration management and
> VEE models.
>
> I'm currently using RCS on the HPUX platform for revision control.
I have attempted to use RCS also, but have met a real barrier when the
program size starts growing a little. Namely RCS seems to hit an
exponential barrier with large programs. While it still works, it is
incredibly painfully slow.
For instance on a 755/125 RCS takes something like _15 minutes_ to check
in a 2MB file!
Perhaps something is busted here, perhaps that's just the way it is.
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Stan Bischof Hewlett Packard Company 707-577-3994 stanb@sr.hp.com
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| Dipl. Ing. Andreas SCHWARZ |
| Design Engineer |
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| SCHRACK AEROSPACE Ges.m.b.H. Tel. : Int.+43-1-80199/5546 |
| Breitenfurterstr. 106-108 Fax : Int.+43-1-80199/695 |
| A-1120 Vienna, AUSTRIA / EUROPE |
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| e-Mail: andreas.schwarz@shraero.co.at |
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Dear Sirs,
I'm also using DOS based RCS for configuration of VEE Windows programs
and found it very usefull for adding configuration information into
meas-data files and to document test procedures.
It would be helpfull to have the checkin/checkout stuff of RCS
directly included into VEE.
Maybe it is helpfull to use a "grep" filter script for the "rcsdiff" information
to filter out non-interesting positioning information.
I'll ask our UNIX guys in the company if they have experience on "ci" of 2MB files
(they use RCS for VHDL code).
It would be nice to find a way to avoid 2MB "single-file" source code in VEE by splitting
large applications into several sources test, debug them separately and "merge" them.
(more or less the C-style of program development).
The actual "merge" command of VEE should be more powerfull for this kind of usage.
(maybe a script whith the capability to load, place and wire several submodules
automatically.)
Mit freundlichen Gruessen - Best regards,
A. Schwarz
From: sz@pc_chief.shraero.co.at (Dipl. Ing. Andreas Schwarz SCHRACK Aerospace Vienna (431-80199-5546))
To: stanb@hpnmrsb2.sr.hp.com
Subject: Re: VEE and Configuration Management
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 13:38:52 GMT
/---------------------------------------------------------------
| Dipl. Ing. Andreas SCHWARZ |
| Design Engineer |
| |
| SCHRACK AEROSPACE Ges.m.b.H. Tel. : Int.+43-1-80199/5546 |
| Breitenfurterstr. 106-108 Fax : Int.+43-1-80199/695 |
| A-1120 Vienna, AUSTRIA / EUROPE |
| |
| e-Mail: andreas.schwarz@shraero.co.at |
| ftp: yes, News: no, WWW: yes |
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Dear Sir,
I just tried to make a test on RCS with a VEE file (1.65 MByte) on a
SUN SPARC 10 workstation.
It takes only a few seconds to check in a new version with some random
changes.
(I just typed a few characters in some randomly choosen lines with a texteditor
and moved one block of some lines)
How many changes do you have from one revision to the next?
Mit freundlichen Gruessen - Best regards,
A. Schwarz
Pendergrass Darryl <p22012@gegpo2.geg.mot.com> wrote:
>
> Looking for guidance or tools that facilitate configuration management and
> VEE models.
>
> I'm currently using RCS on the HPUX platform for revision control.
I have attempted to use RCS also, but have met a real barrier when the
program size starts growing a little. Namely RCS seems to hit an
exponential barrier with large programs. While it still works, it is
incredibly painfully slow.
For instance on a 755/125 RCS takes something like _15 minutes_ to check
in a 2MB file!
Perhaps something is busted here, perhaps that's just the way it is.
----------------------------------------------------------------------
Stan Bischof Hewlett Packard Company 707-577-3994 stanb@sr.hp.com
----------------------------------------------------------------------
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/---------------------------------------------------------------
| Dipl. Ing. Andreas SCHWARZ |
| Design Engineer |
| |
| SCHRACK AEROSPACE Ges.m.b.H. Tel. : Int.+43-1-80199/5546 |
| Breitenfurterstr. 106-108 Fax : Int.+43-1-80199/695 |
| A-1120 Vienna, AUSTRIA / EUROPE |
| |
| e-Mail: andreas.schwarz@shraero.co.at |
| ftp: yes, News: no, WWW: yes |
---------------------------------------------------------------/
Dear Sirs,
I'm also using DOS based RCS for configuration of VEE Windows programs
and found it very usefull for adding configuration information into
meas-data files and to document test procedures.
It would be helpfull to have the checkin/checkout stuff of RCS
directly included into VEE.
Maybe it is helpfull to use a "grep" filter script for the "rcsdiff" information
to filter out non-interesting positioning information.
I'll ask our UNIX guys in the company if they have experience on "ci" of 2MB files
(they use RCS for VHDL code).
It would be nice to find a way to avoid 2MB "single-file" source code in VEE by splitting
large applications into several sources test, debug them separately and "merge" them.
(more or less the C-style of program development).
The actual "merge" command of VEE should be more powerfull for this kind of usage.
(maybe a script whith the capability to load, place and wire several submodules
automatically.)
Mit freundlichen Gruessen - Best regards,
A. Schwarz
From: sz@pc_chief.shraero.co.at (Dipl. Ing. Andreas Schwarz SCHRACK Aerospace Vienna (431-80199-5546))
To: stanb@hpnmrsb2.sr.hp.com
Subject: Re: VEE and Configuration Management
Date: Fri, 5 Apr 96 13:38:52 GMT
/---------------------------------------------------------------
| Dipl. Ing. Andreas SCHWARZ |
| Design Engineer |
| |
| SCHRACK AEROSPACE Ges.m.b.H. Tel. : Int.+43-1-80199/5546 |
| Breitenfurterstr. 106-108 Fax : Int.+43-1-80199/695 |
| A-1120 Vienna, AUSTRIA / EUROPE |
| |
| e-Mail: andreas.schwarz@shraero.co.at |
| ftp: yes, News: no, WWW: yes |
---------------------------------------------------------------/
Dear Sir,
I just tried to make a test on RCS with a VEE file (1.65 MByte) on a
SUN SPARC 10 workstation.
It takes only a few seconds to check in a new version with some random
changes.
(I just typed a few characters in some randomly choosen lines with a texteditor
and moved one block of some lines)
How many changes do you have from one revision to the next?
Mit freundlichen Gruessen - Best regards,
A. Schwarz
Looking for guidance or tools that facilitate configuration management and
VEE models.
I'm currently using RCS on the HPUX platform for revision control. The
problem, however, is the ability to document "functional changes" in model
revisions. When you execute a diff command, most of the noted changes are
related to graphical placement of objects. It is difficult to determine
what changes will affect the function of the model.
Your guidance/input would be greatly appreciated.
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Darryl Pendergrass
Motorola
Government and Space Technology Group
Email: P22012@email.mot.com
Phone: 602/441-5621
8201 E. McDowell Rd. Scottsdale, AZ 85252 MD: R1108
Fax: 602/441-4056