<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.0 Transitional//EN"><HTML><HEAD><META HTTP-EQUIV="Content-Type" CONTENT="text/html; charset=iso-8859-1"><META content="MSHTML 6.00.2800.1476" name=GENERATOR><STYLE></STYLE></HEAD><BODY bgColor=#ffffff><DIV><SPAN class=103120823-23112004><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>I remember APL!!! That was such a great language. I did a lot of work in APL. I miss it.....</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=103120823-23112004><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV><SPAN class=103120823-23112004><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>BTW, in case anyone is wondering APL stands for: A Programming Language.</FONT></SPAN></DIV><DIV><SPAN class=103120823-23112004><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080></FONT></SPAN> </DIV><DIV><SPAN class=103120823-23112004><FONT face=Verdana color=#000080>-Bill</FONT></SPAN></DIV><BLOCKQUOTE style="PADDING-LEFT: 5px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px; BORDER-LEFT: #000080 2px solid"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> D'SOUZA,MARIO (A-USA,ex1) [mailto:mario_dsouza@agilent.com]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 PM<BR><B>To:</B> VRF<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf] RE: array input - enter the triadic!<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=007505522-23112004>OR use a conditional (the triadic) operator as follows:</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=007505522-23112004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=007505522-23112004> (yes...this is terribly crytic...sigh)</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=007505522-23112004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=007505522-23112004> A[0:(totsize(A)-1?(totsize(A)-2):0)]</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=007505522-23112004></SPAN></FONT> </DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=007505522-23112004>..........remember APL anyone??</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2><SPAN class=007505522-23112004>mario</SPAN></FONT></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Mike Groves [mailto:mike@grovesnet.org]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:06 PM<BR><B>To:</B> VRF<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf] RE: array input<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>OR...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>If you don't know the final size of the array, but you know you want to knock off the last value, you can use this formula...</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial>A[0:totSize(A)-2]</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Since TotSize(A)-1 points to the last value in an array, TotSize(A)-2 will point to the <EM>next </EM>to the last value. The starting array must have at least 2 elements or it will generate an error.</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2></FONT></SPAN> </DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Cheers,</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <DIV><SPAN class=984552421-23112004><FONT face=Arial color=#0000ff size=2>Mike Groves</FONT></SPAN></DIV> <BLOCKQUOTE dir=ltr style="MARGIN-RIGHT: 0px"> <DIV class=OutlookMessageHeader dir=ltr align=left><FONT face=Tahoma size=2>-----Original Message-----<BR><B>From:</B> Cem Kayis [mailto:ckayis@mst.aselsan.com.tr]<BR><B>Sent:</B> Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:13 AM<BR><B>To:</B> VRF<BR><B>Subject:</B> [vrf] array input<BR><BR></FONT></DIV> <DIV><FONT face=Arial size=2> <P>Hello,</P> <P>An array of frequency values are entered through the constant Real64 object in one shot, as shown on the attached file.</P> <P>The problem is, I want to delete the last value(the fifth index) and reduce the size of the array to 5 before pressing the OK button during program execution. I don' t want to use the "object menu-Properties dialog box"of the Real64 object to modify the size.</P> <P>Help will be appreciated.</P> <P>Best regards,</P> <P><FONT color=#0000ff></FONT> </P> <P>Cem Kayis</P> <P>Electronics Engineer</P> <P>ASELSAN Inc.</FONT></P></DIV></BLOCKQUOTE>---<BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: mario_dsouza@agilent.com<BR>To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". </BLOCKQUOTE>---<BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: William.Drago@L-3com.com<BR>To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com". </BLOCKQUOTE>---<BR>You are currently subscribed to vrf as: rsb@soco.agilent.com<BR>To subscribe send a blank email to "join-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To unsubscribe send a blank email to "leave-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".<BR>To send messages to this mailing list, email "vrf@agilent.com". <BR>If you need help with the mailing list send a message to "owner-vrf@it.lists.it.agilent.com".</BODY></HTML>
Actually, yes. I did read the book on APL. I found it to be a terminally
strange language that was perfect for writing machine readable only code
that was perfect for building systems, with.
And that was from reading a book on system design that recommended it. It
also happens that I try to use what I learned from this experience in
reading about system design, in building the things.
Nice simple expression. But does it work?
--
Gregg C Levine landocalrissian atsign att dot net
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From: D'SOUZA,MARIO (A-USA,ex1) [mailto:mario_dsouza@agilent.com]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 6:05 PM
To: VRF
Subject: [vrf] RE: array input - enter the triadic!
OR use a conditional (the triadic) operator as follows:
(yes...this is terribly crytic...sigh)
A[0:(totsize(A)-1?(totsize(A)-2):0)]
..........remember APL anyone??
mario
-----Original Message-----
From: Mike Groves [mailto:mike@grovesnet.org]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:06 PM
To: VRF
Subject: [vrf] RE: array input
OR...
If you don't know the final size of the array, but you know youwant
toknock offthe last value, you can use this formula...
A[0:totSize(A)-2]
Since TotSize(A)-1 points to the last value in an array,TotSize(A)-2will
point to the next to the last value. The startingarray musthave at least 2
elements or it willgenerate an error.
Cheers,
Mike Groves
-----Original Message-----
From: Cem Kayis [mailto:ckayis@mst.aselsan.com.tr]
Sent: Tuesday, November 23, 2004 5:13 AM
To: VRF
Subject: [vrf] array input
Hello,
An array of frequency values are entered through the constant Real64 object
in one shot, as shown on the attached file.
The problem is, I want to delete the last value(the fifth index) and reduce
the size of the array to 5 before pressing the OK button during program
execution. I don t want to use the "object menu-Properties dialog box"of
the Real64 object to modify the size.
Help will be appreciated.
Best regards,
Cem Kayis
Electronics Engineer
ASELSAN Inc.
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Don't forget HPL.
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Na! There's a special interest group for almost everything
> Where do you get the keyboards
Now that I couldn't say. SIGAPL might be able to though
www.acm.org/sigs/sigapl
> Actually, I think APL is better than MATLAB.
I'm only technically familiar with it. I doubt I could actually do anything
with it.
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you get the keyboards, not talking 'bout those soft keyboards, but the ones
with the symbols? Actually, I think APL is better than MATLAB.
rufus
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> I did read the book on APL.
Don't forget HPL.
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<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Schlieker, Reiner[mailto:reiner.schlieker@siemens.com]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Wednesday, November 24, 2004</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>9:26 AM</span></font><fontsize=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> VRF
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [vrf] RE: array input -enter the triadic!</span></font></p><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>I programmed in ASYST fora while. Reverse polish notation anyone? But my favourite acronymis TWAIN - Technology Without An Interesting Name...</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Reiner</span></font></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----OriginalMessage-----
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Drago, William @NARDAEAST[mailto:William.Drago@L-3com.com]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Tuesday, November 23, 2004</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>6:11 PM</span></font><fontsize=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> VRF
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [vrf] RE: array input -enter the triadic!</span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=navyface=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>Iremember APL!!! That was such a great language. I did a lot of work inAPL. I miss it.....</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=navyface=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>BTW,in case anyone is wondering APL stands for: A Programming Language.</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 color=navyface=Verdana><span style='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;color:navy'>-Bill</span></font></p></div><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid navy 1.5pt;padding:0in 0in 0in 4.0pt;margin-left:3.75pt;margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----OriginalMessage-----
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> D'SOUZA,MARIO (A-USA,ex1)[mailto:mario_dsouza@agilent.com]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Tuesday, November 23, 2004</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>6:05 PM</span></font><fontsize=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> VRF
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [vrf] RE: array input -enter the triadic!</span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>OR use a conditional (thetriadic) operator as follows:</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> (yes...this is terribly crytic...sigh)</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'> A[0:(totsize(A)-1?(totsize(A)-2):0)]</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>..........remember APLanyone??</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>mario</span></font></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----OriginalMessage-----
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Mike Groves[mailto:mike@grovesnet.org]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Tuesday, November 23, 2004</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>5:06 PM</span></font><fontsize=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> VRF
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [vrf] RE: array input</span></font></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>OR...</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>If you don't know thefinal size of the array, but you know you want to knock off thelast value, you can use this formula...</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Arial'>A[0:totSize(A)-2]</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Since TotSize(A)-1 pointsto the last value in an array, TotSize(A)-2 will point to the <em><i><fontface=Arial><span style='font-family:Arial'>next </span></font></i></em>to thelast value. The starting array must have at least 2 elements or itwill generate an error.</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'> </span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Cheers,</span></font></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 color=blue face=Arial><spanstyle='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial;color:blue'>Mike Groves</span></font></p></div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-right:0in;margin-bottom:12.0pt;margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>-----OriginalMessage-----
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>From:</span></b> Cem Kayis[mailto:ckayis@mst.aselsan.com.tr]
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Sent:</span></b> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>Tuesday, November 23, 2004</span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'> </span></font><font size=2 face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>5:13 AM</span></font><font size=2face=Tahoma><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma'>
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>To:</span></b> VRF
<b><span style='font-weight:bold'>Subject:</span></b> [vrf] array input</span></font></p><div><p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Hello,</span></font></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>An array of frequency values are entered through theconstant Real64 object in one shot, as shown on the attached file.</span></font></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>The problem is, I want to delete the last value(thefifth index) and reduce the size of the array to 5 before pressing the OKbutton during program execution. I don' t want to use the "objectmenu-Properties dialog box"of the Real64 object to modify the size.</span></font></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Help will be appreciated.</span></font></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Best regards,</span></font></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'> </span></font></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Cem Kayis</span></font></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>Electronics Engineer</span></font></p><p style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=2 face=Arial><span style='font-size:10.0pt;font-family:Arial'>ASELSAN Inc.</span></font></p></div></blockquote><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-left:.5in'><font size=3 face="Times New Roman"><spanstyle='font-size:12.0pt'>---
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